1 00:00:01,940 --> 00:00:04,260 - Good afternoon from Wright-Patterson Air Force Base. 2 00:00:04,260 --> 00:00:05,970 Thank you for joining us today. 3 00:00:05,970 --> 00:00:09,540 I'm Wendy Varhegyi, the Director of Public Affairs for AFMC. 4 00:00:09,540 --> 00:00:12,390 Joining me today is General Arnie Bunch, our Commander, 5 00:00:12,390 --> 00:00:15,250 as well as Chief Master Sergeant Stan Cadell, 6 00:00:15,250 --> 00:00:17,510 our Chief Master Sergeant of the command. 7 00:00:17,510 --> 00:00:19,630 We're happy to have them here today to talk to us 8 00:00:19,630 --> 00:00:21,990 about what's going on around the Command 9 00:00:21,990 --> 00:00:24,190 and answer your questions. 10 00:00:24,190 --> 00:00:26,170 Thank you for all the questions you have submitted. 11 00:00:26,170 --> 00:00:29,260 You still have an opportunity to comment on the live stream, 12 00:00:29,260 --> 00:00:31,100 and we will answer as many questions 13 00:00:31,100 --> 00:00:33,883 as we have time to do so. 14 00:00:34,870 --> 00:00:36,700 Before we get started with opening comments, 15 00:00:36,700 --> 00:00:38,130 we thought it would be interesting 16 00:00:38,130 --> 00:00:41,010 as a way to get to know General Bunch and Chief Cadell, 17 00:00:41,010 --> 00:00:43,160 to ask a few lightning round questions. 18 00:00:43,160 --> 00:00:46,490 So we're gonna start with both of you here real quick. 19 00:00:46,490 --> 00:00:48,252 Introvert or extrovert? 20 00:00:48,252 --> 00:00:51,550 - Introvert. - Introvert. 21 00:00:51,550 --> 00:00:53,830 - Climb a mountain or jump out of a plane? 22 00:00:53,830 --> 00:00:55,980 - Climb a mountain. - Jump out of a plane. 23 00:00:56,930 --> 00:00:59,290 - Would you rather be able to speak and understand 24 00:00:59,290 --> 00:01:00,790 every language in the world, 25 00:01:00,790 --> 00:01:03,195 or be able to talk to animals? 26 00:01:03,195 --> 00:01:04,703 - The first. - Absolutely the first. 27 00:01:08,700 --> 00:01:10,560 - Star Wars or Star Trek? 28 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:12,590 - Star Wars. - Star Wars. 29 00:01:12,590 --> 00:01:13,550 - I would agree. 30 00:01:13,550 --> 00:01:16,193 What do you think about when you're alone in the car? 31 00:01:17,450 --> 00:01:19,650 - Unfortunately, what have I gotta get done. 32 00:01:21,300 --> 00:01:24,808 - So I guess it's thinking about what am I forgetting. 33 00:01:24,808 --> 00:01:27,720 What's going on that I'm not thinking about? 34 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:30,400 - Exactly, given today's technology, 35 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:32,650 if you were given the opportunity to travel to space 36 00:01:32,650 --> 00:01:33,560 would you take it? 37 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:35,900 - Yes. - Absolutely. 38 00:01:35,900 --> 00:01:37,440 Absolutely, correct. 39 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:38,823 - Ninjas or pirates? 40 00:01:40,362 --> 00:01:42,010 - Ninjas. 41 00:01:42,010 --> 00:01:43,510 - Is there a third option? 42 00:01:43,510 --> 00:01:44,343 - Nope (laughs). 43 00:01:45,331 --> 00:01:47,440 - Ninja's, I think. 44 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:48,760 - Test or sustainment? 45 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:50,910 Just kidding, please don't answer that one. 46 00:01:52,224 --> 00:01:54,100 - I don't need to get voted off the island 47 00:01:54,100 --> 00:01:56,000 by part of the command here. 48 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:58,610 - Exactly, so sir that, we just wanted to 49 00:01:58,610 --> 00:01:59,932 kinda get to know you a little bit. 50 00:01:59,932 --> 00:02:01,210 We'll let you have the opportunity 51 00:02:01,210 --> 00:02:02,380 for some opening comments. 52 00:02:02,380 --> 00:02:03,213 - So thanks Wendy. 53 00:02:03,213 --> 00:02:06,700 So, everybody out there, good morning, 54 00:02:06,700 --> 00:02:08,950 good afternoon, and good evening. 55 00:02:08,950 --> 00:02:11,000 That in and of itself tells you a little bit 56 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:13,260 about how diverse our command is. 57 00:02:13,260 --> 00:02:15,960 We're spread all around the world executing the mission, 58 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:18,440 and making sure that the Air Force can do its mission 59 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:20,100 each and every day. 60 00:02:20,100 --> 00:02:23,570 It is a honor and a privilege for Caroline and I 61 00:02:23,570 --> 00:02:26,480 to get the opportunity to serve as the Command Team, 62 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:28,970 and get to work for you, the Airmen, 63 00:02:28,970 --> 00:02:31,210 of the Air Force Materiel Command. 64 00:02:31,210 --> 00:02:33,670 We've had the privilege of being in this role now 65 00:02:33,670 --> 00:02:38,670 a little over eight months, and I am consistently inspired 66 00:02:39,470 --> 00:02:43,770 and awed by everything that you do each and every day. 67 00:02:43,770 --> 00:02:46,520 So thank you for what you're doing to make us successful, 68 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:48,500 and thank you for what you're doing 69 00:02:48,500 --> 00:02:51,470 to make the Air Force and the nation successful 70 00:02:51,470 --> 00:02:52,870 in doing what we need to do. 71 00:02:53,770 --> 00:02:56,620 You've read our New Vision, you've read our New Mission. 72 00:02:56,620 --> 00:02:59,213 That's been up on the screen as you logged in, 73 00:03:00,430 --> 00:03:01,860 so hopefully you got that. 74 00:03:01,860 --> 00:03:03,530 We had a big off-site where we brought all 75 00:03:03,530 --> 00:03:05,160 the senior leaders together to go look at 76 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:07,560 what we need to do to go forward for the future. 77 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:09,280 So that's not just one of us doing it, 78 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:11,050 that's the command team getting together 79 00:03:11,050 --> 00:03:13,470 and setting that up for how we want to go forward. 80 00:03:13,470 --> 00:03:14,820 So hopefully, you're seeing that. 81 00:03:14,820 --> 00:03:16,330 You've been able to see some of the videos 82 00:03:16,330 --> 00:03:18,940 that we've been putting out to go forward, 83 00:03:18,940 --> 00:03:21,900 and we got a lot of great initiatives going on. 84 00:03:21,900 --> 00:03:23,640 We got the AFMC things we need. 85 00:03:23,640 --> 00:03:26,427 We're working on facilities, communication, IT, 86 00:03:29,166 --> 00:03:32,510 a variety of different areas there, leadership training. 87 00:03:32,510 --> 00:03:34,840 We got privatized housing. 88 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:37,530 We got joint all domain command and control. 89 00:03:37,530 --> 00:03:40,870 We got a myriad of things that we're doing as a command, 90 00:03:40,870 --> 00:03:42,460 and you all are making it happen. 91 00:03:42,460 --> 00:03:44,820 You all are the ones doing all the hard work, 92 00:03:44,820 --> 00:03:46,990 and I look forward to your questions 93 00:03:46,990 --> 00:03:49,430 as we go forward here, Chief. 94 00:03:49,430 --> 00:03:51,250 - Yeah, I just also want to say thank you, 95 00:03:51,250 --> 00:03:54,090 and thank you for the time to log in, 96 00:03:54,090 --> 00:03:56,100 and kind of your interest in hearing 97 00:03:56,100 --> 00:03:57,680 what's coming from the command team. 98 00:03:57,680 --> 00:04:02,280 We're excited to be part of your team and the work for you. 99 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:05,100 General Bunch and I are trying to get out 100 00:04:05,100 --> 00:04:07,730 and see and talk to many of you out there in the field, 101 00:04:07,730 --> 00:04:09,120 but we know that we're not getting, 102 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:11,600 with a command this size, we don't have the opportunity 103 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:13,040 to see and talk to everyone. 104 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:15,990 So using venues like this to kinda get the message out, 105 00:04:15,990 --> 00:04:19,100 and to hear directly from you is extremely important. 106 00:04:19,100 --> 00:04:21,510 So thank you for taking time for that too. 107 00:04:21,510 --> 00:04:23,810 Really looking forward to kinda hearing from you 108 00:04:23,810 --> 00:04:25,370 and hearing what's on your mind, 109 00:04:25,370 --> 00:04:29,160 and hearing an opportunity to discuss 110 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:30,960 what's going on in this great command. 111 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:33,080 Look forward to your questions. 112 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:34,400 - Okay, thank you both. 113 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:36,720 So General Bunch, we hear you say a lot, 114 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:38,970 you know, that AFMC is the most important command 115 00:04:38,970 --> 00:04:40,970 to achieve the national defense strategy. 116 00:04:40,970 --> 00:04:43,490 You mentioned new mission, vision, strategic plan, 117 00:04:43,490 --> 00:04:47,340 but could you kinda explain why you think as AFMC 118 00:04:47,340 --> 00:04:48,250 is the most important? 119 00:04:48,250 --> 00:04:51,070 What do we do that really makes us stand out, 120 00:04:51,070 --> 00:04:52,790 and lead the way for the NDS? 121 00:04:52,790 --> 00:04:53,760 - So, it's a great question. 122 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:57,360 It's one that I hope every airman in AFMC 123 00:04:57,360 --> 00:04:59,563 is ready to answer when they get asked. 124 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:04,870 We're the most diverse, complex command, that's out there. 125 00:05:04,870 --> 00:05:08,900 We do all of the development of the new science 126 00:05:08,900 --> 00:05:10,390 and technology to make sure 127 00:05:10,390 --> 00:05:13,500 we have a technological advantage. 128 00:05:13,500 --> 00:05:16,670 We do all the acquisition of everything 129 00:05:16,670 --> 00:05:18,130 with the exception of space, 130 00:05:18,130 --> 00:05:22,090 everything from uniforms to nuclear modernization, 131 00:05:22,090 --> 00:05:23,613 and everything in between. 132 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:27,500 We are sustaining legacy fleets that no one else 133 00:05:27,500 --> 00:05:30,470 other than our unbelievable Airmen doing all the great work 134 00:05:30,470 --> 00:05:33,350 in the Depot and running the supply wings, 135 00:05:33,350 --> 00:05:35,863 and managing the supply chain could keep flying. 136 00:05:37,692 --> 00:05:39,690 And we do all the testing for everything 137 00:05:39,690 --> 00:05:41,020 that's coming online to make sure 138 00:05:41,020 --> 00:05:42,420 that when it goes the field. 139 00:05:43,330 --> 00:05:45,830 All of those, the Air Force counts on us for, 140 00:05:45,830 --> 00:05:47,540 for all those systems. 141 00:05:47,540 --> 00:05:50,290 Underlying that as a foundation is all the great work 142 00:05:50,290 --> 00:05:51,840 done in the Air Force installation 143 00:05:51,840 --> 00:05:54,090 and Mission Support Center, to make sure 144 00:05:54,090 --> 00:05:57,140 that our Airmen, have the right facilities, 145 00:05:57,140 --> 00:06:00,860 have the right services, have the right childcare, 146 00:06:00,860 --> 00:06:02,710 can do the contracting. 147 00:06:02,710 --> 00:06:06,140 All of those things together are why I believe 148 00:06:06,140 --> 00:06:09,770 what we do each and every day is so important 149 00:06:09,770 --> 00:06:11,863 to our ability to execute our mission, 150 00:06:13,559 --> 00:06:17,160 and I talked about this in multiple forums. 151 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:19,270 I talk about my fellow MAJCOM commanders. 152 00:06:19,270 --> 00:06:21,190 I talk about it when I'm with the media. 153 00:06:21,190 --> 00:06:22,990 I talked about it at Air War College 154 00:06:22,990 --> 00:06:25,053 just a week and a half ago. 155 00:06:27,340 --> 00:06:30,570 We do our wartime mission each and every day, 156 00:06:30,570 --> 00:06:34,090 and we have to act like that, and we have to do our mission, 157 00:06:34,090 --> 00:06:36,500 because of the contribution. 158 00:06:36,500 --> 00:06:40,410 If we're not successful, the Air Force cannot be successful. 159 00:06:40,410 --> 00:06:41,780 So, as you can probably tell, 160 00:06:41,780 --> 00:06:44,280 I'm a little bit passionate about this one, 161 00:06:44,280 --> 00:06:46,650 because I really truly know what you're doing 162 00:06:46,650 --> 00:06:48,510 and how much it contributes to everything 163 00:06:48,510 --> 00:06:50,580 that's going on across the Air Force. 164 00:06:50,580 --> 00:06:51,660 - Sir, thank you. 165 00:06:51,660 --> 00:06:53,010 So, Chief Cadell for you. 166 00:06:53,010 --> 00:06:55,260 As our enlisted leader, what are you seeing 167 00:06:55,260 --> 00:06:59,060 as the big issues affecting our enlisted force, 168 00:06:59,060 --> 00:07:01,120 things like the promotion testing changes, 169 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:04,050 fitness retention, and how are we addressing those issues? 170 00:07:04,050 --> 00:07:06,450 - Yeah, so thanks Wendy. 171 00:07:06,450 --> 00:07:09,420 I can tell you, our enlisted forces 172 00:07:09,420 --> 00:07:10,840 is the best in the world. 173 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:14,099 When I think about our Air Force and how proud I am 174 00:07:14,099 --> 00:07:17,350 to serve the airmen that wear the uniform. 175 00:07:17,350 --> 00:07:19,140 Our enlisted force are the backbone of that. 176 00:07:19,140 --> 00:07:21,420 So, I think highly of them. 177 00:07:21,420 --> 00:07:23,920 As you mentioned, there are some things going on 178 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:25,780 in our Air Force, some changes, 179 00:07:25,780 --> 00:07:28,540 some things that they've got the focus 180 00:07:28,540 --> 00:07:31,200 of many of our senior leaders, 181 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:34,380 whether that's promotion testing for our senior NCOs. 182 00:07:34,380 --> 00:07:37,260 Recently we removed the promotion, 183 00:07:37,260 --> 00:07:40,560 the testing portion of the promotion for senior NCOs, 184 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:42,430 and it's only a boarding process, 185 00:07:42,430 --> 00:07:44,090 and that's created a lot of angst, 186 00:07:44,090 --> 00:07:46,010 and questions and concerns from folks out there. 187 00:07:46,010 --> 00:07:47,490 What does that mean? 188 00:07:47,490 --> 00:07:49,153 How do I compete? 189 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:54,100 Are my records gonna be compatible for the Board? 190 00:07:54,100 --> 00:07:55,290 How are they gonna look at that? 191 00:07:55,290 --> 00:07:56,710 So, all of those questions come up. 192 00:07:56,710 --> 00:07:58,560 So some things that we're doing with that. 193 00:07:58,560 --> 00:07:59,770 We just had a meeting last week, 194 00:07:59,770 --> 00:08:02,520 we were talking about how do we give better feedback 195 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:06,640 to those individuals who not only just get a board score, 196 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:07,960 but really kinda help them decrypt 197 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:09,680 what that board score means, 198 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:12,020 and provide them better feedback on that. 199 00:08:12,020 --> 00:08:14,170 So we have a team up at up at HAF 200 00:08:14,170 --> 00:08:15,003 that's currently working that, 201 00:08:15,003 --> 00:08:17,620 and they've got that for action. 202 00:08:17,620 --> 00:08:20,360 They're actually doing a test right now, 203 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:22,350 on the next Senior Master Arm Promotion Board 204 00:08:22,350 --> 00:08:24,407 to kinda take a look at that and see if there's any value 205 00:08:24,407 --> 00:08:26,910 in kind of breaking that out, 206 00:08:26,910 --> 00:08:29,110 and kinda decrypting that, and making more sense of it. 207 00:08:29,110 --> 00:08:31,040 So, we'll see how that comes out, 208 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:32,370 but that is absolutely something 209 00:08:32,370 --> 00:08:34,690 that's on our enlisted forces mine. 210 00:08:34,690 --> 00:08:38,740 The other we get questions fairly often is about fitness, 211 00:08:38,740 --> 00:08:40,550 and what is that? 212 00:08:40,550 --> 00:08:42,450 You know, the changes to the fitness pieces, 213 00:08:42,450 --> 00:08:45,253 there's a lot flying around on social media about, 214 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:50,530 the decoupling the waist measurement 215 00:08:50,530 --> 00:08:53,963 from the actual, the rest of the fitness test. 216 00:08:53,963 --> 00:08:56,700 We've looked into that, and I tell you my personal view is 217 00:08:56,700 --> 00:08:59,525 I don't think there's a lot of value in that. 218 00:08:59,525 --> 00:09:03,240 We do think that there may be value in doing the, 219 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:06,370 what we're doing our test based on right now, 220 00:09:06,370 --> 00:09:10,750 is on looking at doing mock test or diagnostic test, 221 00:09:10,750 --> 00:09:13,670 basically making a time where an individual 222 00:09:13,670 --> 00:09:16,360 can go take a fitness test early, 223 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:18,784 and if they score well, and they're happy with their score, 224 00:09:18,784 --> 00:09:21,323 they can say I like that, and it counts. 225 00:09:22,750 --> 00:09:25,150 The thought behind that is it kind of lowers 226 00:09:25,150 --> 00:09:26,950 a little bit of the anxiety 227 00:09:26,950 --> 00:09:28,590 that goes in with fitness testing, 228 00:09:28,590 --> 00:09:30,573 and that's what our hope is that be able to do that. 229 00:09:30,573 --> 00:09:33,430 The idea is that we want to fit culture. 230 00:09:33,430 --> 00:09:36,370 We really want people not to just to be 231 00:09:36,370 --> 00:09:38,870 taking the fitness test, to be passing it. 232 00:09:38,870 --> 00:09:39,772 We actually want you to have 233 00:09:39,772 --> 00:09:42,230 a culture of fitness all year round, 234 00:09:42,230 --> 00:09:44,070 and that's really our focus on that. 235 00:09:44,070 --> 00:09:45,370 So those are just a couple of things 236 00:09:45,370 --> 00:09:47,980 on the mind of our enlisted force, 237 00:09:47,980 --> 00:09:49,350 and not just our enlisted force, 238 00:09:49,350 --> 00:09:50,360 I think that really applies 239 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:51,890 to all of our uniform folks. 240 00:09:51,890 --> 00:09:53,130 Sir, do you have any more on that? 241 00:09:53,130 --> 00:09:54,910 - Yeah, so one of the things that I would, 242 00:09:54,910 --> 00:09:57,520 and I completely echo what you said 243 00:09:57,520 --> 00:09:59,850 with the changes we're making to the enlisted system. 244 00:09:59,850 --> 00:10:01,560 I think those are all warranted. 245 00:10:01,560 --> 00:10:03,870 I think what we're seeing, and we've talked now about 246 00:10:03,870 --> 00:10:05,950 for our officers developmental categories, 247 00:10:05,950 --> 00:10:08,450 and how do we develop officers so they're better prepared 248 00:10:08,450 --> 00:10:11,690 for senior leadership positions, 249 00:10:11,690 --> 00:10:15,470 senior leadership positions in their specific career field, 250 00:10:15,470 --> 00:10:16,810 and how do we develop 'em? 251 00:10:16,810 --> 00:10:17,800 Do we send 'em to school? 252 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:20,280 All those all those are designed to get after 253 00:10:20,280 --> 00:10:22,800 developing the workforce we need for tomorrow. 254 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:24,370 It's not because there's anything wrong 255 00:10:24,370 --> 00:10:25,770 with the workforce that we have today. 256 00:10:25,770 --> 00:10:28,800 We have unbelievable Airmen across the board, 257 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:31,890 but we're trying to do something that we've kind of watched. 258 00:10:31,890 --> 00:10:34,580 We haven't made major changes in quite a while, 259 00:10:34,580 --> 00:10:37,540 and what we're really trying to do is change, 260 00:10:37,540 --> 00:10:40,780 so that we can retain, so that we can educate, 261 00:10:40,780 --> 00:10:43,370 and that we can develop, so that we're developing 262 00:10:43,370 --> 00:10:46,700 the workforce we need for the Air Force we need 263 00:10:46,700 --> 00:10:48,830 for the future, and the leaders we need. 264 00:10:48,830 --> 00:10:51,470 So that's really what the focus on both the enlisted 265 00:10:51,470 --> 00:10:54,200 and the officer side is all about. 266 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:57,180 On the physical fitness, you gotta do it. 267 00:10:57,180 --> 00:10:59,760 It's part of the job, we gotta do it every year. 268 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:03,670 The beta test is really to alleviate some of that stress 269 00:11:03,670 --> 00:11:06,470 that many of us get when we go in to take the test, 270 00:11:06,470 --> 00:11:08,480 and not have a one or a zero, 271 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:11,350 where it can show up in your record, and it can hurt you, 272 00:11:11,350 --> 00:11:13,560 but to give you a chance to do that. 273 00:11:13,560 --> 00:11:16,900 Now, for those that want to decouple the waist measurement, 274 00:11:16,900 --> 00:11:20,240 and the rest of the test, I am the one 275 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:24,380 that's probably against that, as much as about anybody else. 276 00:11:24,380 --> 00:11:27,010 I based that on the fact that I used to box, 277 00:11:27,010 --> 00:11:31,750 and when I boxed, I would lose a lot of weight, 278 00:11:31,750 --> 00:11:34,370 not the wisest thing that I had ever done, 279 00:11:34,370 --> 00:11:36,750 and I knew what it did to my body. 280 00:11:36,750 --> 00:11:39,060 What we need or airman that are in fitness, 281 00:11:39,060 --> 00:11:41,600 and focus on fitness throughout the year, 282 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:44,950 not try to do something drastic to make a waist measurement, 283 00:11:44,950 --> 00:11:46,190 and then do something different. 284 00:11:46,190 --> 00:11:48,590 So that's really where our focus is, 285 00:11:48,590 --> 00:11:51,840 and just to make sure everybody kinda understands 286 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:53,890 the position that I've taken. 287 00:11:53,890 --> 00:11:56,200 - So talking about fitness, we know that the Air Force 288 00:11:56,200 --> 00:11:58,370 is looking to do its own program. 289 00:11:58,370 --> 00:12:01,140 Do we anticipate the beta test that AFMC is doing 290 00:12:01,140 --> 00:12:04,300 to change much, or will that just be about consistent 291 00:12:04,300 --> 00:12:06,340 with what the air force will be doing? 292 00:12:06,340 --> 00:12:09,280 - So, I'll take that one, and Chief you can add in. 293 00:12:09,280 --> 00:12:11,870 Right now, what we have gone with. 294 00:12:11,870 --> 00:12:14,520 We have been in dialogue with other major commands. 295 00:12:14,520 --> 00:12:15,353 We've talked with everybody else 296 00:12:15,353 --> 00:12:17,220 about kinda what's going on, 297 00:12:17,220 --> 00:12:20,930 and we believe that we're pretty close. 298 00:12:20,930 --> 00:12:23,340 We might have to tweak a little around the edges 299 00:12:24,180 --> 00:12:26,140 when the Air Force policy finally comes out, 300 00:12:26,140 --> 00:12:26,973 but what we're doing right now, 301 00:12:26,973 --> 00:12:29,310 and what you are doing right now, 302 00:12:29,310 --> 00:12:31,040 is you're giving us valuable feedback 303 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:32,280 on whether this works or not. 304 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:35,580 We were just out with the field last week out at Langley, 305 00:12:35,580 --> 00:12:40,100 and got to visit the supply chain group there, 306 00:12:40,100 --> 00:12:42,130 and they were talking about how they were utilizing it. 307 00:12:42,130 --> 00:12:45,330 They had some questions about it, which I welcomed, 308 00:12:45,330 --> 00:12:46,390 but we're right now trying 309 00:12:46,390 --> 00:12:47,700 to collect data for the Air Force. 310 00:12:47,700 --> 00:12:50,460 It might tweak around some, but I think we're pretty close. 311 00:12:50,460 --> 00:12:52,050 - Yeah, sir I would absolutely agree. 312 00:12:52,050 --> 00:12:56,820 I think that our beta test is gonna actually inform 313 00:12:56,820 --> 00:12:58,000 the bigger Air Force policy. 314 00:12:58,000 --> 00:13:00,720 I think they're interested in the information 315 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:03,420 that we get back, so that if we need to tweak anything 316 00:13:03,420 --> 00:13:05,150 for the bigger Air Force policy, 317 00:13:05,150 --> 00:13:07,223 it'll just even make it better. 318 00:13:09,170 --> 00:13:10,800 - So General Bunch, we continue to hear a lot 319 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:12,580 about privatized housing in the news 320 00:13:12,580 --> 00:13:13,413 and from our senior leaders. 321 00:13:13,413 --> 00:13:15,550 Do you have any updates that you could give us 322 00:13:15,550 --> 00:13:16,990 on some of the specific issues 323 00:13:16,990 --> 00:13:18,520 and how we're addressing them? 324 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:21,543 - Yes, so, for everyone out there. 325 00:13:23,020 --> 00:13:28,020 We, as senior leaders owe you a safe living conditions 326 00:13:28,810 --> 00:13:30,460 for you and your family. 327 00:13:30,460 --> 00:13:33,450 Safe and secure living conditions for you and your family. 328 00:13:33,450 --> 00:13:35,930 If you believe you do not have that, 329 00:13:35,930 --> 00:13:38,740 or if you are encountering any issues, 330 00:13:38,740 --> 00:13:41,290 my encouragement to you is please reach out 331 00:13:41,290 --> 00:13:43,700 to your military housing office, 332 00:13:43,700 --> 00:13:46,130 or reach out to your chain of command, 333 00:13:46,130 --> 00:13:48,660 because this is commander business 334 00:13:48,660 --> 00:13:50,020 to make sure we're taking care 335 00:13:50,020 --> 00:13:52,020 of our airmen and their families. 336 00:13:52,020 --> 00:13:54,980 We recruit airmen, we retain families, 337 00:13:54,980 --> 00:13:56,690 and we've got to get this right, 338 00:13:56,690 --> 00:13:58,570 and we got to make some strides. 339 00:13:58,570 --> 00:14:01,350 There are a lot of initiatives going on. 340 00:14:01,350 --> 00:14:03,460 One of the big ones that I will say 341 00:14:03,460 --> 00:14:05,580 that not everybody's tracking exactly. 342 00:14:05,580 --> 00:14:08,560 Most have heard of some of the initiatives we got going on, 343 00:14:08,560 --> 00:14:13,360 but this one, we actually added 200 plus personnel 344 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:16,080 that are going out into the military housing offices 345 00:14:16,080 --> 00:14:18,680 are gonna be, and it'll depend on the base size. 346 00:14:18,680 --> 00:14:21,780 Those are all on the Unit Manning Documents. 347 00:14:21,780 --> 00:14:25,200 They've been given direct hire authority to go do that. 348 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:27,950 So, all the installations across the Air Force 349 00:14:27,950 --> 00:14:29,500 should be looking at that. 350 00:14:29,500 --> 00:14:31,980 They should be going out and filling those roles. 351 00:14:31,980 --> 00:14:34,670 We have put in place a resident advocate. 352 00:14:34,670 --> 00:14:39,530 That resident advocate is to work with the military members 353 00:14:39,530 --> 00:14:41,730 who are living in those homes, 354 00:14:41,730 --> 00:14:43,890 so that they can work with the project owner, 355 00:14:43,890 --> 00:14:47,540 to make sure their concerns are being addressed. 356 00:14:47,540 --> 00:14:49,880 We're coming out with a new Bill of Rights. 357 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:53,120 I am going to a roundtable meeting tomorrow 358 00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:55,930 with the Army, the Navy, and the Air Force, 359 00:14:55,930 --> 00:14:57,596 and the Office of Secretary of Defense, 360 00:14:57,596 --> 00:14:59,990 where we'll be sitting down with the project owners 361 00:14:59,990 --> 00:15:03,600 for all privatized housing, and going over this tomorrow 362 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:06,740 for about two hours with the Honorable Henderson, 363 00:15:06,740 --> 00:15:09,480 as well as the service secretaries, and the service chiefs, 364 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:12,690 and we'll be working through that Bill of Rights. 365 00:15:12,690 --> 00:15:16,070 We are taking steps to where you may not have 366 00:15:16,070 --> 00:15:19,210 to pay your rent, while you're in the middle of a dispute. 367 00:15:19,210 --> 00:15:21,830 We're still working out the final details of this, 368 00:15:21,830 --> 00:15:23,970 so that we can get those resolved 369 00:15:23,970 --> 00:15:26,400 and you are not feeling burdened, 370 00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:28,870 and go to more of a situation you would find 371 00:15:28,870 --> 00:15:30,970 if you weren't living in a privatized home, 372 00:15:30,970 --> 00:15:33,460 but living in a off-base house. 373 00:15:33,460 --> 00:15:35,890 One of the recent things Congress just passed, 374 00:15:35,890 --> 00:15:40,020 if there's a dispute over utilities that now 375 00:15:40,020 --> 00:15:44,530 they can't bill you more, because we don't have 376 00:15:44,530 --> 00:15:48,500 a very good database that shows what each home costs 377 00:15:48,500 --> 00:15:50,640 from an energy perspective, 378 00:15:50,640 --> 00:15:52,790 and we are trying to work our way through that 379 00:15:52,790 --> 00:15:54,900 to make sure that what you're paying for utilities 380 00:15:54,900 --> 00:15:57,570 is really what you should be paying for your utilities. 381 00:15:57,570 --> 00:15:59,970 So that was one that Congress got involved with. 382 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:04,810 Right now we have six bases 383 00:16:04,810 --> 00:16:06,540 that are kinda highlighted above others 384 00:16:06,540 --> 00:16:08,280 that have had some issues. 385 00:16:08,280 --> 00:16:10,130 I am getting monthly updates. 386 00:16:10,130 --> 00:16:12,220 Those are going to the Vice Chief or Staff of the Air Force 387 00:16:12,220 --> 00:16:13,710 and the Under Secretary to the Air Force, 388 00:16:13,710 --> 00:16:16,200 with the appropriate MAJCOM commanders 389 00:16:16,200 --> 00:16:19,330 that own those installations being involved. 390 00:16:19,330 --> 00:16:20,630 This one is personal or me. 391 00:16:20,630 --> 00:16:22,810 We've got to take care of our families and I look at it, 392 00:16:22,810 --> 00:16:25,020 I'm looking at it from two perspectives. 393 00:16:25,020 --> 00:16:27,410 The first perspective is we have installations 394 00:16:27,410 --> 00:16:28,900 within Air Force Materiel Command 395 00:16:28,900 --> 00:16:31,620 that I need airman to be able to focus on their mission, 396 00:16:31,620 --> 00:16:33,140 and not worry about the homes 397 00:16:33,140 --> 00:16:35,090 that they're living in on the bases. 398 00:16:35,090 --> 00:16:37,800 So that's, as the Commander of AFMC, 399 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:39,550 I want those installations those Airmen 400 00:16:39,550 --> 00:16:41,730 that are AFMC Airmen taken care of. 401 00:16:41,730 --> 00:16:43,610 The other one though with the Air Force installation 402 00:16:43,610 --> 00:16:45,760 of Mission Support Center working for AFMC, 403 00:16:46,990 --> 00:16:49,270 I'm focused on the whole Air Force. 404 00:16:49,270 --> 00:16:53,070 I've gone to many bases, and when I go to those bases, 405 00:16:53,070 --> 00:16:55,120 I'm almost always going through privatized housing 406 00:16:55,120 --> 00:16:58,360 to talk to residents, talk to the installation commander 407 00:16:58,360 --> 00:17:00,340 to find out how we can better support. 408 00:17:00,340 --> 00:17:02,430 So we have a lot of initiatives. 409 00:17:02,430 --> 00:17:05,810 My big ask is, if you're a commander, 410 00:17:05,810 --> 00:17:08,860 and someone says they have an issue with housing, 411 00:17:08,860 --> 00:17:10,440 I need you listen to 'em. 412 00:17:10,440 --> 00:17:11,900 I need you to get it routed up. 413 00:17:11,900 --> 00:17:13,500 I need to take care of 'em. 414 00:17:13,500 --> 00:17:16,890 If you're a resident, an airman, living in a privatized home 415 00:17:16,890 --> 00:17:20,680 and you are having issues, please bring it to someone 416 00:17:20,680 --> 00:17:23,470 in your leadership's attention, so that we can make sure 417 00:17:23,470 --> 00:17:25,950 you get the right level of support. 418 00:17:25,950 --> 00:17:27,500 - Thank you sir. 419 00:17:27,500 --> 00:17:29,070 - Can I just add to his? 420 00:17:29,070 --> 00:17:30,700 As General Bunch, you can obviously see 421 00:17:30,700 --> 00:17:32,920 he's passionate about this, and it's because it is 422 00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:33,930 the families and affects that, 423 00:17:33,930 --> 00:17:37,440 so, if you if you didn't think there was much going on, 424 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:40,300 on that road, you quickly learn that there's a lot going on 425 00:17:40,300 --> 00:17:42,170 and there's a lot of focus on making sure 426 00:17:42,170 --> 00:17:43,700 we get this right for our airmen. 427 00:17:43,700 --> 00:17:46,500 So I encourage you, if you're an airman living in housing, 428 00:17:46,500 --> 00:17:48,150 or if you're a spouse living in housing, 429 00:17:48,150 --> 00:17:49,940 please reach out and get help. 430 00:17:49,940 --> 00:17:52,300 You got a first sergeant, you've got commanders, 431 00:17:52,300 --> 00:17:56,080 you've got folks out there who want to help you, 432 00:17:56,080 --> 00:17:57,581 and get the things right. 433 00:17:57,581 --> 00:18:00,650 So, please reach out to them, and make sure to give them 434 00:18:00,650 --> 00:18:03,072 an opportunity to work these issues for you. 435 00:18:03,072 --> 00:18:04,672 - You've got Residence Councils. 436 00:18:06,130 --> 00:18:07,950 There is a lot out there. 437 00:18:07,950 --> 00:18:10,260 Now I have to say, some of this 438 00:18:10,260 --> 00:18:11,760 is not gonna happen overnight. 439 00:18:12,630 --> 00:18:14,800 It's gonna take us some time, but I can tell you 440 00:18:14,800 --> 00:18:17,730 we are trying to put a lot of effort into this area 441 00:18:17,730 --> 00:18:19,370 because it's critical for being able 442 00:18:19,370 --> 00:18:21,200 to care of our airmen and their families. 443 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:22,290 - Thank you both. 444 00:18:22,290 --> 00:18:23,940 So Chief, we'll direct this to you. 445 00:18:23,940 --> 00:18:26,090 Last fall the Air Force conducted a resilience 446 00:18:26,090 --> 00:18:29,190 tactical pause to combat the rising suicide numbers. 447 00:18:29,190 --> 00:18:31,430 Can you talk a little bit about the result of that pause, 448 00:18:31,430 --> 00:18:34,250 and what the Air Force and AFMC are doing 449 00:18:34,250 --> 00:18:37,180 to address the shortages in mental health providers? 450 00:18:37,180 --> 00:18:39,300 Is there any consideration to embedding 451 00:18:39,300 --> 00:18:41,400 these providers in our squadrons and units? 452 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:42,610 - Yeah, so thanks for the question. 453 00:18:42,610 --> 00:18:45,060 I'll attack it first and then give General Bunch 454 00:18:45,060 --> 00:18:46,750 an opportunity to kind of hit on this too, 455 00:18:46,750 --> 00:18:47,590 because this is passionate. 456 00:18:47,590 --> 00:18:50,320 This is, again, we talked about taking care of airmen, 457 00:18:50,320 --> 00:18:51,620 and that last question. 458 00:18:51,620 --> 00:18:53,003 This is really it too. 459 00:18:54,511 --> 00:18:55,920 The big picture piece is why did we do 460 00:18:55,920 --> 00:18:59,060 the resiliencing tactical pause? 461 00:18:59,060 --> 00:19:01,860 The reason we did is because we've seen an alarming number 462 00:19:01,860 --> 00:19:04,890 of people who were doing destructive behavior 463 00:19:04,890 --> 00:19:06,950 to their selves, and decide to take their lives. 464 00:19:06,950 --> 00:19:08,100 They didn't see a way out. 465 00:19:08,100 --> 00:19:09,890 They didn't see an opportunity for 466 00:19:09,890 --> 00:19:11,810 what tomorrow would look like. 467 00:19:11,810 --> 00:19:14,720 So we really said, hey we gotta take a pause here, 468 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:18,390 and take a look at what can we do differently, 469 00:19:18,390 --> 00:19:21,040 and the idea of that resiliency tactical pause 470 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:23,440 was not to say, hey, we think this is it. 471 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:24,800 We're done, we fixed it. 472 00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:27,600 This was really just an opportunity to get feedback 473 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:29,905 from the force, and kind of hear from you, 474 00:19:29,905 --> 00:19:33,060 what's going on out there, and then what can we do 475 00:19:33,060 --> 00:19:36,110 to hear, to do differently? 476 00:19:36,110 --> 00:19:37,600 We got lots of feedback, 477 00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:39,750 and we're utilizing some of that feedback. 478 00:19:39,750 --> 00:19:42,620 But let me tell you one thing I think that's important 479 00:19:42,620 --> 00:19:47,568 as part of this whole discussion about resiliency, 480 00:19:47,568 --> 00:19:51,620 is that, I think the bottom line with resiliency piece, 481 00:19:51,620 --> 00:19:54,430 it comes with having individuals 482 00:19:54,430 --> 00:19:57,960 who are willing and open to seek help. 483 00:19:57,960 --> 00:20:02,480 So part of this is us looking to how do we de-stigmatize 484 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:03,930 an individual go get help, 485 00:20:03,930 --> 00:20:06,200 whether that's for mental health, or chaplains, 486 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:08,120 or anyone else that's out there, supervisors, 487 00:20:08,120 --> 00:20:09,910 first sergeants, there's lots of different 488 00:20:09,910 --> 00:20:12,283 helping agencies out there. 489 00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:16,840 So, when we talk about resiliency tactical pause, 490 00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:19,900 it is kind of a beginning point as I look at this, 491 00:20:19,900 --> 00:20:21,740 but we have to build those relationships, 492 00:20:21,740 --> 00:20:24,917 and open up that connectedness between our force. 493 00:20:24,917 --> 00:20:29,220 We just started in another effort called AFMC Connect, 494 00:20:29,220 --> 00:20:31,630 where we're trying to actually connect our force 495 00:20:31,630 --> 00:20:33,680 and really it's to kinda get people talking, 496 00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:35,530 getting people to open up about things 497 00:20:35,530 --> 00:20:36,910 that are going on their lives, 498 00:20:36,910 --> 00:20:39,030 and share with other individuals who are there 499 00:20:39,030 --> 00:20:41,280 to kind of help, and hear what's going on, 500 00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:44,610 and provide them resources out there 501 00:20:44,610 --> 00:20:46,920 within your organizations. 502 00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:49,950 The bottom line is there's lots of resources out there, 503 00:20:49,950 --> 00:20:50,783 and you gotta be able to reach out, 504 00:20:50,783 --> 00:20:52,810 and you gotta feel comfortable with that, 505 00:20:52,810 --> 00:20:55,660 but having that individual being willing 506 00:20:55,660 --> 00:20:59,100 to kind of make their self vulnerable and open up 507 00:20:59,100 --> 00:21:00,770 is extremely important with that. 508 00:21:00,770 --> 00:21:03,660 So, what I will tell you is, 509 00:21:03,660 --> 00:21:06,620 anytime we talk about resiliency, it's got to be something 510 00:21:06,620 --> 00:21:10,330 that we're looking at as a whole person piece there, 511 00:21:10,330 --> 00:21:12,080 whether that's a spiritual piece, 512 00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:14,890 whether that's the mental health piece, 513 00:21:14,890 --> 00:21:18,630 whether that's the physical piece, whatever that is, 514 00:21:18,630 --> 00:21:21,460 it's looking at the whole person portion in here, 515 00:21:21,460 --> 00:21:24,570 and in offers and resources that are out there. 516 00:21:24,570 --> 00:21:26,950 Bottom line is, there's help available 517 00:21:26,950 --> 00:21:29,713 for anyone who is struggling with anything, 518 00:21:30,820 --> 00:21:34,630 any type of destructive behavior, harming themselves, 519 00:21:34,630 --> 00:21:35,670 and we need to make sure that we're 520 00:21:35,670 --> 00:21:37,662 plugging them into the resources 521 00:21:37,662 --> 00:21:39,810 that are available out there. 522 00:21:39,810 --> 00:21:44,323 You talked a little bit about the mental health providers, 523 00:21:44,323 --> 00:21:46,670 and the shortage there. 524 00:21:46,670 --> 00:21:48,591 What I'll tell you is I think this is not something 525 00:21:48,591 --> 00:21:50,480 specific to the Air Force, 526 00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:54,630 this is a wider national issue, where we are, as a nation, 527 00:21:54,630 --> 00:21:57,110 are short in mental health providers. 528 00:21:57,110 --> 00:21:59,710 We're doing things to look for options 529 00:22:00,714 --> 00:22:03,630 or opportunities out there to kind of make sure 530 00:22:03,630 --> 00:22:05,530 that people are available to help, 531 00:22:05,530 --> 00:22:08,710 and there's lots of efforts going on that from A1Z 532 00:22:08,710 --> 00:22:10,940 is our folks that are up at HAF, 533 00:22:10,940 --> 00:22:12,580 and kind of looking at a policy standpoint 534 00:22:12,580 --> 00:22:15,140 and how do we bring people more mental health providers 535 00:22:15,140 --> 00:22:17,500 into the force, and how do we sustain those, 536 00:22:17,500 --> 00:22:19,040 and take care of those that are in Air Force. 537 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:22,423 So lots of efforts going on in this arena, 538 00:22:23,410 --> 00:22:24,900 but the bottom line I think I want 539 00:22:24,900 --> 00:22:27,910 to kind of foot stomp here, is that for those folks 540 00:22:27,910 --> 00:22:30,143 who are need help, please reach out. 541 00:22:31,010 --> 00:22:35,220 There is help available, and don't wait 542 00:22:35,220 --> 00:22:39,250 'til it gets to a point where you don't know what to do. 543 00:22:39,250 --> 00:22:40,780 Reach out early and often. 544 00:22:40,780 --> 00:22:43,590 Connect with those individuals in the workforce around you. 545 00:22:43,590 --> 00:22:44,590 They're there to help you. 546 00:22:44,590 --> 00:22:47,340 We want to be there to help you if you're struggling 547 00:22:47,340 --> 00:22:49,061 or you know someone is struggling. 548 00:22:49,061 --> 00:22:52,333 Don't let it fester, get after it, so, sir. 549 00:22:53,210 --> 00:22:57,570 - So, anyone out there that thought we did 550 00:22:57,570 --> 00:23:01,380 the one day downtime, have the tactical pause, 551 00:23:01,380 --> 00:23:03,130 and thought they were doing the high five 552 00:23:03,130 --> 00:23:06,370 and the happy dance, 'cause we had solved the problem. 553 00:23:06,370 --> 00:23:08,390 You're completely wrong. 554 00:23:08,390 --> 00:23:11,660 That was a step in a process. 555 00:23:11,660 --> 00:23:14,440 Last year, if you read the news this morning, 556 00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:17,200 112 suicides across the Air Force 557 00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:20,720 of uniform members, last year. 558 00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:25,420 10 year high, 24 civilians. 559 00:23:25,420 --> 00:23:28,489 Last year for Air Force Materiel Command we had 15, 560 00:23:28,489 --> 00:23:30,623 12 civilians and three uniform. 561 00:23:31,580 --> 00:23:33,033 We are not out of this. 562 00:23:34,330 --> 00:23:37,500 We are trying to get resources for mental health. 563 00:23:37,500 --> 00:23:38,890 There's a conference next month, 564 00:23:38,890 --> 00:23:41,400 to see what we can do to try to address that. 565 00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:43,790 We are trying to make sure the helping agencies 566 00:23:43,790 --> 00:23:47,120 that we've been using, our employee assistance programs, 567 00:23:47,120 --> 00:23:48,650 and those things are available. 568 00:23:48,650 --> 00:23:50,710 We just renegotiated a contract to make sure 569 00:23:50,710 --> 00:23:52,890 we had that available for everybody. 570 00:23:52,890 --> 00:23:55,330 So there's a lot of effort going into that. 571 00:23:55,330 --> 00:23:57,540 Here's what I ask you though, out there 572 00:23:57,540 --> 00:23:59,963 as an airman within this command. 573 00:24:01,070 --> 00:24:05,330 I love all 85,000 plus airmen, that work in the command, 574 00:24:05,330 --> 00:24:06,453 love everyone of you. 575 00:24:07,360 --> 00:24:10,890 No matter how much I love you, there is no way 576 00:24:10,890 --> 00:24:14,070 that I'm gonna know that something is happening 577 00:24:14,070 --> 00:24:17,080 in a young airman's life at Edwards Air Force Base, 578 00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:19,000 that's working on the flight line, 579 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:23,380 or a contracting officer working at Tinker, 580 00:24:23,380 --> 00:24:25,960 or a depot worker at Robins. 581 00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:28,040 There is very little probability 582 00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:30,580 that it's gonna bubble up to my attention. 583 00:24:30,580 --> 00:24:34,410 To handle this we have to do it at the local level. 584 00:24:34,410 --> 00:24:38,040 It's got to be the small groups, you've got to connect. 585 00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:41,200 You've gotta take that chance and ask someone 586 00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:44,980 when they come in and they start showing up at work late, 587 00:24:44,980 --> 00:24:47,660 or they come in and their uniform's not right, 588 00:24:47,660 --> 00:24:50,050 or they start dressing differently. 589 00:24:50,050 --> 00:24:54,360 Take that bold step and ask 'em if they're okay. 590 00:24:54,360 --> 00:24:56,890 Only through that kind of an engagement 591 00:24:56,890 --> 00:24:58,780 are we gonna be able to get after this, 592 00:24:58,780 --> 00:25:02,930 and take care of our most valuable resource, the airmen, 593 00:25:02,930 --> 00:25:06,073 the men and women that make this command successful. 594 00:25:07,540 --> 00:25:10,630 - Important topic, and you mentioned the AFMC Connect, 595 00:25:10,630 --> 00:25:13,170 so new program launching out. 596 00:25:13,170 --> 00:25:14,550 We did get a little bit of feedback 597 00:25:14,550 --> 00:25:16,390 that this is another program, 598 00:25:16,390 --> 00:25:19,390 and it's just gonna take more time away from the mission. 599 00:25:19,390 --> 00:25:20,520 What do you say to that, 600 00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:24,650 and how do we do this while we balance the mission, 601 00:25:24,650 --> 00:25:27,205 and, you know, people's lives. 602 00:25:27,205 --> 00:25:30,360 - So I'll start Chief, I'll let you kind of finish. 603 00:25:30,360 --> 00:25:33,450 It's not really intended to be a training burden. 604 00:25:33,450 --> 00:25:37,740 It's actually intended to be a way to give people topics 605 00:25:37,740 --> 00:25:40,660 to talk about, to build that connectedness, 606 00:25:40,660 --> 00:25:42,350 that I kind of referenced a minute ago 607 00:25:42,350 --> 00:25:46,280 to make that for frontline effort contact, 608 00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:48,220 and making sure we're looking out for each other 609 00:25:48,220 --> 00:25:51,957 to bring that up as you do your mission on a regular basis. 610 00:25:51,957 --> 00:25:54,620 It's not intended to go, I gotta go train 611 00:25:54,620 --> 00:25:57,350 for X number of hours on this or that. 612 00:25:57,350 --> 00:25:59,920 This is really another tool we're trying to bring forward 613 00:25:59,920 --> 00:26:03,970 so that we can build that connectivity at that working level 614 00:26:03,970 --> 00:26:07,150 so that we are looking out for each other along the way. 615 00:26:07,150 --> 00:26:10,200 - Yes sir, I would just add that it is. 616 00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:11,680 It's a tool in your toolbox, 617 00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:13,800 and this is something that we're trying to really start 618 00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:15,070 and try to see if it works. 619 00:26:15,070 --> 00:26:16,590 If it doesn't work, then we'll look somewhere else, 620 00:26:16,590 --> 00:26:19,780 but the reality is, is that we want to provide you 621 00:26:19,780 --> 00:26:24,780 as both supervisors, employees, leaders out there, 622 00:26:25,182 --> 00:26:27,590 a tool for your toolbox. 623 00:26:27,590 --> 00:26:30,120 The axle it's connecting with individuals 624 00:26:30,120 --> 00:26:31,980 is that human touch, that we're 625 00:26:31,980 --> 00:26:33,580 really trying to strive after. 626 00:26:33,580 --> 00:26:35,910 many times we get so busy in our work lives, 627 00:26:35,910 --> 00:26:39,080 and get so busy with things that are going on around us, 628 00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:40,880 that we forget really what's in front of us, 629 00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:43,120 and it's those people that sit next to you, 630 00:26:43,120 --> 00:26:45,530 that's people that are surrounded each and every day, 631 00:26:45,530 --> 00:26:47,543 and we lose contact with them. 632 00:26:47,543 --> 00:26:50,660 The AFMC Connect is, it's just a simple thing, 633 00:26:50,660 --> 00:26:53,470 a way to sit down and talk about things that are going on, 634 00:26:53,470 --> 00:26:55,170 and we're gonna give you subjects 635 00:26:55,170 --> 00:26:57,220 to kind of open up and start dialogue, 636 00:26:57,220 --> 00:26:58,500 but that's really what it's about. 637 00:26:58,500 --> 00:27:00,400 It's kind of making contact with those individuals 638 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:01,910 around you, starting a dialogue, 639 00:27:01,910 --> 00:27:03,710 getting to know those folks around you. 640 00:27:03,710 --> 00:27:05,453 I'd encourage you to talk to the individuals 641 00:27:05,453 --> 00:27:07,550 that are sitting next to you, or working around you, 642 00:27:07,550 --> 00:27:08,820 get to know who they are. 643 00:27:08,820 --> 00:27:10,460 What makes them tick? 644 00:27:10,460 --> 00:27:12,283 Why do they do what they do? 645 00:27:13,450 --> 00:27:16,110 Getting to know 'em in a little bit deeper level. 646 00:27:16,110 --> 00:27:19,110 We call it a little bit of intrusive leadership. 647 00:27:19,110 --> 00:27:21,660 Get to know them as much as they're willing to allow you 648 00:27:21,660 --> 00:27:23,970 into their bubble, little bitty circle, 649 00:27:23,970 --> 00:27:26,020 but that's really what AFMC Connect is about, 650 00:27:26,020 --> 00:27:26,880 it's getting to know the people 651 00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:28,780 that you work with each and every day. 652 00:27:29,990 --> 00:27:32,070 - The Chief hit on one of the normal talking points 653 00:27:32,070 --> 00:27:35,220 that I use, I quote General Hoffman who 654 00:27:35,220 --> 00:27:36,380 when I was a Wing Commander, 655 00:27:36,380 --> 00:27:38,330 he was the MAJCOM Commander, and he said, 656 00:27:38,330 --> 00:27:42,250 be as intrusive as your people will allow you to be Arnie. 657 00:27:42,250 --> 00:27:44,650 The reality of it is unless we ask some hard questions 658 00:27:44,650 --> 00:27:46,640 every now and then, you won't know that, 659 00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:49,790 and you might be able to answer the lightning questions 660 00:27:49,790 --> 00:27:52,640 without us having to answer them ourselves. 661 00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:55,130 You may know whether an introvert or an extrovert. 662 00:27:55,130 --> 00:27:55,963 So anyway. 663 00:27:57,130 --> 00:27:59,110 - So one of the questions that came in online 664 00:27:59,110 --> 00:28:02,910 was somewhat related to this, knowing your workplace. 665 00:28:02,910 --> 00:28:04,870 How do you manage bullies in the workplace, 666 00:28:04,870 --> 00:28:06,730 and toxic work environment? 667 00:28:06,730 --> 00:28:08,380 And what are some tools for that? 668 00:28:13,270 --> 00:28:17,200 - Every airman that works in Air Force Materiel Command 669 00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:22,110 should have the ability to be given the opportunity 670 00:28:22,110 --> 00:28:24,410 to be fully successful in their workplace, 671 00:28:24,410 --> 00:28:29,410 without any form of harassment of any nature whatsoever. 672 00:28:29,870 --> 00:28:31,990 If you do not believe you are getting that, 673 00:28:31,990 --> 00:28:34,900 and you believe you're being bullied or anything else, 674 00:28:34,900 --> 00:28:36,630 that needs to go to supervisors. 675 00:28:36,630 --> 00:28:40,630 If supervisors are not responding, it needs to go levels up. 676 00:28:40,630 --> 00:28:43,450 That is something we cannot have in a workplace 677 00:28:43,450 --> 00:28:45,480 that's as professional as ours, 678 00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:48,020 doing a wartime mission each and every day. 679 00:28:48,020 --> 00:28:50,460 We're in a constant battle for talent. 680 00:28:50,460 --> 00:28:53,930 We cannot allow that to go on in this command. 681 00:28:53,930 --> 00:28:58,310 So, if you experience it, nip it immediately, 682 00:28:58,310 --> 00:29:00,310 and bring it someone's attention. 683 00:29:00,310 --> 00:29:02,900 If you're a leader, and you see it, 684 00:29:02,900 --> 00:29:06,420 you gotta stop it, or you will set a new standard. 685 00:29:06,420 --> 00:29:09,230 You cannot walk by a problem. 686 00:29:09,230 --> 00:29:12,070 If you're a commander, or you're a command Chief, 687 00:29:12,070 --> 00:29:16,070 or you're a Chief, or you're a Squadron, whatever it is, 688 00:29:16,070 --> 00:29:18,200 and you see something like that happen, 689 00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:20,110 you have got to immediately take action 690 00:29:20,110 --> 00:29:21,540 or it will foster a belief 691 00:29:21,540 --> 00:29:23,570 that other behaviors can be allowed, 692 00:29:23,570 --> 00:29:26,760 and you cannot allow that to happen in a workplace 693 00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:30,120 that we're trying to develop to give everyone 694 00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:33,635 the opportunity to be successful. 695 00:29:33,635 --> 00:29:34,910 - [Wendy] Sir, appreciate that. 696 00:29:34,910 --> 00:29:36,130 - Sir, I think you said it best. 697 00:29:36,130 --> 00:29:36,963 I don't know if there's anything 698 00:29:36,963 --> 00:29:38,673 I can add to that, but amen. 699 00:29:41,270 --> 00:29:43,350 - All right, shifting gears just a bit. 700 00:29:43,350 --> 00:29:46,930 Can you provide the status of the AFMC We Need initiative, 701 00:29:46,930 --> 00:29:48,940 and talk about some recent wins and efforts 702 00:29:48,940 --> 00:29:50,330 that we have underway. 703 00:29:50,330 --> 00:29:53,333 - So, let me start by saying thank you. 704 00:29:54,750 --> 00:29:57,853 We asked you for your feedback, and you gave it to us. 705 00:29:58,780 --> 00:30:02,070 It was over 80,000 comments that we got back, 706 00:30:02,070 --> 00:30:05,480 and we've started a lot of initiatives. 707 00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:08,290 As you'll recall, the big ones that you brought up, 708 00:30:08,290 --> 00:30:13,290 facilities, IT, leadership, communications. 709 00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:16,580 What I would tell you is we have initiatives going in, 710 00:30:16,580 --> 00:30:18,190 after a lot of those. 711 00:30:18,190 --> 00:30:21,110 On the facilities this year is the first year 712 00:30:21,110 --> 00:30:23,720 that we have gotten a higher percentage 713 00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:25,270 of the amount of money we need 714 00:30:25,270 --> 00:30:30,020 to do our facilities restoration and modernization 715 00:30:30,020 --> 00:30:32,830 facility sustainment, restoration, and modernization, 716 00:30:32,830 --> 00:30:34,770 and we're out executing those programs 717 00:30:34,770 --> 00:30:36,280 to try to create a better workplace. 718 00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:39,820 We're also looking at ways where we have manning crunches, 719 00:30:39,820 --> 00:30:43,130 to be able to move people off-base, in some places, 720 00:30:43,130 --> 00:30:44,650 to give them the right workspace 721 00:30:44,650 --> 00:30:45,670 and be able to take care of 'em. 722 00:30:45,670 --> 00:30:48,500 So that's what we're doing on some of the facilities, 723 00:30:48,500 --> 00:30:50,450 but you'll recall what I told you, 724 00:30:50,450 --> 00:30:53,670 in one of the addresses, facilities and IT 725 00:30:53,670 --> 00:30:55,160 are gonna be two of the hardest ones 726 00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:57,157 that we have to try to go work. 727 00:30:57,157 --> 00:30:59,520 They're ones that are gonna take me more time, 728 00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:02,430 us more time to try to get you a better answer. 729 00:31:02,430 --> 00:31:07,430 On IT, we have our team building together strategies 730 00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:08,963 of what it would take. 731 00:31:09,860 --> 00:31:11,180 Where could we invest? 732 00:31:11,180 --> 00:31:15,593 What could we do to improve the work environment? 733 00:31:17,500 --> 00:31:19,680 We are collecting metrics on what we're losing 734 00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:22,740 from productivity because the IT is down, 735 00:31:22,740 --> 00:31:24,320 and we're starting to use those. 736 00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:26,420 I am starting to do those, and messages 737 00:31:26,420 --> 00:31:27,920 that I'm giving the senior leaders 738 00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:29,810 about how important this is, 739 00:31:29,810 --> 00:31:32,500 for you to be able to do your mission. 740 00:31:32,500 --> 00:31:35,023 We are also one of the test cases for 5G. 741 00:31:36,100 --> 00:31:38,800 Hill Air Force Base, is one of the 5G test cases. 742 00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:41,190 We'll see how that plays out, and we'll see 743 00:31:41,190 --> 00:31:43,710 if we can grow that even further. 744 00:31:43,710 --> 00:31:46,230 So that's what we're kinda doing in the IT area. 745 00:31:46,230 --> 00:31:48,360 On the communications piece, 746 00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:50,010 we're having a virtual Town Hall. 747 00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:52,830 That's a lot of communication. 748 00:31:52,830 --> 00:31:54,660 The goal is to let you know how important 749 00:31:54,660 --> 00:31:57,770 what you're doing is, and how it contributes. 750 00:31:57,770 --> 00:31:59,820 Another one that we just did last week, 751 00:31:59,820 --> 00:32:01,720 that may or may not have made it out 752 00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:04,700 into a lot of the media yet, General Holmes, 753 00:32:04,700 --> 00:32:06,050 the Air Combat Command Commander 754 00:32:06,050 --> 00:32:09,770 and I signed an agreement that we're gonna attach 755 00:32:09,770 --> 00:32:14,250 or align program offices with mission wings, 756 00:32:14,250 --> 00:32:17,880 and we're gonna foster a dialogue, and a communication 757 00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:19,310 between that mission wing 758 00:32:19,310 --> 00:32:21,340 and what they're doing on a day to day basis, 759 00:32:21,340 --> 00:32:24,950 and how the program office, and the sustainment center, 760 00:32:24,950 --> 00:32:27,490 and the research lab, and everybody who are contributing 761 00:32:27,490 --> 00:32:29,540 to getting that mission done. 762 00:32:29,540 --> 00:32:31,160 We did it with Air Combat Command first, 763 00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:32,390 because quite frankly they had 764 00:32:32,390 --> 00:32:34,660 the biggest portfolio programs. 765 00:32:34,660 --> 00:32:36,450 We're gonna grow that out into each 766 00:32:36,450 --> 00:32:39,940 of the other major commands. to try to give you 767 00:32:39,940 --> 00:32:41,780 a better sense of how what you're doing 768 00:32:41,780 --> 00:32:46,270 contributes to the mission, and gives them an opportunity 769 00:32:46,270 --> 00:32:48,040 to better understand what you're doing, 770 00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:50,510 and some of the challenges you face. 771 00:32:50,510 --> 00:32:53,160 We are on a communications journey. 772 00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:56,160 A lot of it was internal, we're doing some of that here. 773 00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:57,900 We're working some other things. 774 00:32:57,900 --> 00:33:00,540 We're sending out more emails about things. 775 00:33:00,540 --> 00:33:02,840 I know you're reading some of it. 776 00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:05,320 I got an email from someone telling me 777 00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:08,130 I had a grammatical error in my message 778 00:33:08,130 --> 00:33:10,950 that I sent out on mentoring the other day. 779 00:33:10,950 --> 00:33:14,410 I sent an apology email, and all I will say is, 780 00:33:14,410 --> 00:33:17,120 Mrs. Ware, my junior teacher in high school 781 00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:19,600 who told me I would never amount to anything 782 00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:21,240 is very disappointed right now. 783 00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:23,190 So, we'll try to do better on that one. 784 00:33:24,180 --> 00:33:27,560 Two weeks ago we were out at New York City 785 00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:30,070 talking to a bunch of think tanks and leaders, 786 00:33:30,070 --> 00:33:30,960 so we're really trying 787 00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:33,110 to get after the communications piece. 788 00:33:33,110 --> 00:33:35,253 One more, I'll touch on leadership. 789 00:33:36,290 --> 00:33:38,990 We are working within the headquarters, 790 00:33:38,990 --> 00:33:40,080 we're working with a test center, 791 00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:42,710 we're working with a sustainment center 792 00:33:42,710 --> 00:33:45,210 to get after one of the big issues you brought forward 793 00:33:45,210 --> 00:33:49,330 that you do not believe our first level supervisors 794 00:33:49,330 --> 00:33:52,150 are getting the training they need in many cases, 795 00:33:52,150 --> 00:33:55,140 and they're not holding people accountable. 796 00:33:55,140 --> 00:33:57,720 That training we're working on. 797 00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:00,730 The accountability piece is in all of our discussions 798 00:34:00,730 --> 00:34:04,550 at our squadron commander materiel leader classes, 799 00:34:04,550 --> 00:34:06,430 and we're having those dialogues to make sure 800 00:34:06,430 --> 00:34:08,100 we're holding the people accountable 801 00:34:08,100 --> 00:34:10,390 that aren't doing their mission. 802 00:34:10,390 --> 00:34:11,223 - [Wendy] Sir, thank you. 803 00:34:11,223 --> 00:34:12,710 - Can I hit on that a little bit there too. 804 00:34:12,710 --> 00:34:15,410 So as you heard, General Bunch mentioned 80,000 comments, 805 00:34:15,410 --> 00:34:17,590 so lots of feedback. 806 00:34:17,590 --> 00:34:20,360 The other effort that General Bunch has setup 807 00:34:22,148 --> 00:34:27,148 is we set up an office to say commanders initiative office 808 00:34:27,150 --> 00:34:28,590 within the headquarters here, 809 00:34:28,590 --> 00:34:30,880 to kind of look at those comments, 810 00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:32,090 and kind of pull those together, 811 00:34:32,090 --> 00:34:34,600 and make recommended changes and things are going. 812 00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:37,830 So that office is on there, and they're sitting there now, 813 00:34:37,830 --> 00:34:39,000 looking through these comments, 814 00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:40,600 going through them and trying to help us 815 00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:42,200 decipher them, and kind of get back 816 00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:43,710 and get after those types of issues. 817 00:34:43,710 --> 00:34:45,820 So, this is not something that just kind of 818 00:34:45,820 --> 00:34:47,730 took those comments and just let 'em go. 819 00:34:47,730 --> 00:34:50,610 He's actually invested time, and invested energy 820 00:34:50,610 --> 00:34:52,810 and personnel into kind of hearing from you, 821 00:34:52,810 --> 00:34:55,020 and kind of looking at those those comments. 822 00:34:55,020 --> 00:34:55,853 - Sir you want to comment? 823 00:34:55,853 --> 00:34:57,047 - Yeah, I got one other one I gotta throw in, 824 00:34:57,047 --> 00:34:58,670 and I'm glad you brought up the team 825 00:34:58,670 --> 00:35:00,400 that works under General Schaefer, 826 00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:02,810 and I get a monthly review of what they're doing, 827 00:35:02,810 --> 00:35:04,040 and another one that I should have 828 00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:06,290 talked about that I didn't. 829 00:35:06,290 --> 00:35:08,600 We are trying to cut our hiring timelines. 830 00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:10,350 We're working our way through that. 831 00:35:11,590 --> 00:35:14,150 We did like a 10% reduction last year, 832 00:35:14,150 --> 00:35:17,150 we did 19% the year before. 833 00:35:17,150 --> 00:35:19,100 We are really trying to get after this. 834 00:35:19,100 --> 00:35:21,830 We're expanding out what we're doing to try to hire, 835 00:35:21,830 --> 00:35:23,660 so that we can use different authorities. 836 00:35:23,660 --> 00:35:26,450 we're making a lot of progress in that area. 837 00:35:26,450 --> 00:35:28,560 We also gave back time off awards 838 00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:31,339 is something that can be done under the AcqDemo closeout. 839 00:35:31,339 --> 00:35:34,020 That was one you asked for that we put in place. 840 00:35:34,020 --> 00:35:37,810 So we are taking a lot of steps on these initiatives. 841 00:35:37,810 --> 00:35:40,860 Some of the comments that came back, 842 00:35:40,860 --> 00:35:44,190 we labeled as very negative comments. 843 00:35:44,190 --> 00:35:46,430 That's probably not exactly the vernacular we used 844 00:35:46,430 --> 00:35:48,210 but it's close enough. 845 00:35:48,210 --> 00:35:50,910 And what we did was, we made sure those of course, 846 00:35:50,910 --> 00:35:53,000 we're not attributable to anybody, 847 00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:55,500 but if they highlighted problems that we had, 848 00:35:55,500 --> 00:35:58,960 we took those things and parsed them to the right teams 849 00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:01,290 to go look at whether we needed to take more aggressive 850 00:36:01,290 --> 00:36:02,990 action to try to get after things. 851 00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:07,800 - So as part of the AFMC we need. 852 00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:10,600 We just launched a new initiative called Idea Scale. 853 00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:12,670 Chief, can you can you talk a little bit about 854 00:36:12,670 --> 00:36:14,810 what Idea Scale is, and what kind of ideas 855 00:36:14,810 --> 00:36:16,990 are you looking at from across the command? 856 00:36:16,990 --> 00:36:20,460 - Great, thanks Wendy, so Idea Scale's another initiative 857 00:36:20,460 --> 00:36:21,420 that we've got out there. 858 00:36:21,420 --> 00:36:23,390 We know that there's innovation going on 859 00:36:23,390 --> 00:36:24,500 within this command. 860 00:36:24,500 --> 00:36:27,440 We've got great individuals out there 861 00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:29,070 who are doing innovative things 862 00:36:29,070 --> 00:36:31,159 each and every day, trying to do their jobs, 863 00:36:31,159 --> 00:36:36,159 figure out ways to do jobs smarter, faster, safer, easier, 864 00:36:37,470 --> 00:36:38,683 and those are happening. 865 00:36:39,615 --> 00:36:40,620 We see it all the time. 866 00:36:40,620 --> 00:36:42,990 So Idea Scale is just an opportunity 867 00:36:42,990 --> 00:36:46,414 to get your feedback, to kind of bring those ideas in, 868 00:36:46,414 --> 00:36:48,800 in a format that we can kind of look through 869 00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:50,390 and kind of hear, and kind of figure out 870 00:36:50,390 --> 00:36:53,250 which one of those ideas do we need to kind of invest in, 871 00:36:53,250 --> 00:36:56,590 to kinda make sure that we're getting 872 00:36:56,590 --> 00:36:59,590 kind of action behind, and kind of bringing those up 873 00:36:59,590 --> 00:37:04,590 to make 'em happen, to really get them going for you. 874 00:37:04,660 --> 00:37:06,740 That's really what we're trying to do with Idea Scale, 875 00:37:06,740 --> 00:37:10,060 but the big picture piece is, it's not individuals 876 00:37:10,060 --> 00:37:11,330 that are up in the headquarters. 877 00:37:11,330 --> 00:37:12,400 Well there's great Americans 878 00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:14,790 working up here in the headquarters, the reality is, 879 00:37:14,790 --> 00:37:17,890 is the great ideas are coming from people down in the field, 880 00:37:17,890 --> 00:37:21,180 whether that's at our depots or whether that's at Wings, 881 00:37:21,180 --> 00:37:22,650 or down at the Squadron level. 882 00:37:22,650 --> 00:37:25,400 It's people out there doing the job each and every day, 883 00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:27,120 and they're doing great things, 884 00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:29,020 and they say hey I got an idea, 885 00:37:29,020 --> 00:37:30,710 I think we can do this better. 886 00:37:30,710 --> 00:37:32,600 And what do I do with that idea? 887 00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:35,100 Well here's an opportunity just to go 888 00:37:35,100 --> 00:37:37,050 to log on to Idea Scale, put it in there, 889 00:37:37,050 --> 00:37:40,680 tell us what you think, and give us that feedback, 890 00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:42,560 and let us get the experts in there 891 00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:44,550 to kind of look through that, and kind of evaluate it, 892 00:37:44,550 --> 00:37:46,310 and see if that's something we can make happen, 893 00:37:46,310 --> 00:37:48,259 and maybe spread it across the force, 894 00:37:48,259 --> 00:37:51,920 and a bigger impact across our entire force. 895 00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:54,400 The reality is, is we're looking for your feedback. 896 00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:56,350 We need that information. 897 00:37:56,350 --> 00:37:58,550 If we're gonna get better, we can't keep doing things 898 00:37:58,550 --> 00:37:59,650 as we've been doing them. 899 00:37:59,650 --> 00:38:03,300 We gotta look for inventive ways, and that's you, 900 00:38:03,300 --> 00:38:04,630 that's you out there. 901 00:38:04,630 --> 00:38:07,150 So, what I would ask is supervisors, 902 00:38:07,150 --> 00:38:11,500 sometimes I know we're the worst sometimes, right. 903 00:38:11,500 --> 00:38:14,450 We've been doing things one way for a long time, 904 00:38:14,450 --> 00:38:17,740 and we'll look at it and say, no, I don't see anything. 905 00:38:17,740 --> 00:38:20,650 I would ask you to kind of take a look at that, 906 00:38:20,650 --> 00:38:24,140 kinda retool your thinking, kinda look for those ideas. 907 00:38:24,140 --> 00:38:27,600 Encourage your folks out there to kind of look 908 00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:28,950 for better ways of doing things, 909 00:38:28,950 --> 00:38:31,620 and ask them to put those ideas in there, 910 00:38:31,620 --> 00:38:34,090 help us to get better at what we're doing. 911 00:38:34,090 --> 00:38:36,890 The reality is, is we don't need anybody. 912 00:38:36,890 --> 00:38:39,150 You don't have to ask for permission to put 'em in there. 913 00:38:39,150 --> 00:38:41,950 You can go in there and put an idea in Idea Scale today. 914 00:38:43,543 --> 00:38:45,110 So I hope you will, I hope you help us 915 00:38:45,110 --> 00:38:46,770 to make things better, because that's really 916 00:38:46,770 --> 00:38:49,580 what we gotta if we're gonna continue to be 917 00:38:49,580 --> 00:38:53,380 the best Air Force, and the most powerful air force 918 00:38:53,380 --> 00:38:56,100 in the world, we need your ideas 919 00:38:56,100 --> 00:38:58,150 to kinda keep us on line there. 920 00:38:58,150 --> 00:39:00,740 - The only thing I'd add to that, Chief, 921 00:39:00,740 --> 00:39:02,800 is that we don't do the hard work, 922 00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:05,170 you do out in the field each and every day. 923 00:39:05,170 --> 00:39:08,290 So keep those ideas coming in, and the reality of it is, 924 00:39:08,290 --> 00:39:10,980 none of us is as smart as all of us. 925 00:39:10,980 --> 00:39:13,750 We need to harvest those good ideas from everyone, 926 00:39:13,750 --> 00:39:14,890 and be able to bring those in 927 00:39:14,890 --> 00:39:17,490 so that we can make the command operate 928 00:39:17,490 --> 00:39:20,400 more efficiently, more effectively, faster, 929 00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:23,390 so that we are better enabling the Air Force 930 00:39:23,390 --> 00:39:25,560 to do its mission each and every day. 931 00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:26,590 - Okay, thank you. 932 00:39:26,590 --> 00:39:29,530 So, also something that was addressed in the AFMC, 933 00:39:29,530 --> 00:39:31,680 we need to be holding leaders accountable. 934 00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:33,780 Obviously, many of us are aware of, you know, 935 00:39:33,780 --> 00:39:36,370 recent leadership changes across the command. 936 00:39:36,370 --> 00:39:38,710 Could you address that for for the audience here? 937 00:39:38,710 --> 00:39:41,110 - So I won't talk any specifics here. 938 00:39:41,110 --> 00:39:45,780 What I will say is, leadership and command 939 00:39:45,780 --> 00:39:49,280 is a sacred trust that you get, and you go run. 940 00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:51,280 There is no higher calling than being a leader 941 00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:52,273 in our Air Force. 942 00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:55,040 That to me, if you're wearing the uniform, 943 00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:58,140 that's what many of us have tried to get 944 00:39:58,140 --> 00:39:59,293 to the point we are. 945 00:40:00,150 --> 00:40:02,053 If you're in those roles, lead. 946 00:40:03,130 --> 00:40:05,750 We take anything very seriously. 947 00:40:05,750 --> 00:40:07,180 We expect everybody to hold up 948 00:40:07,180 --> 00:40:08,780 the standards we're looking for. 949 00:40:11,010 --> 00:40:15,953 So, all I will say is, leadership is critical. 950 00:40:17,130 --> 00:40:20,700 We need you to lead, and we're gonna hold all of us 951 00:40:20,700 --> 00:40:22,340 accountable for what we do. 952 00:40:22,340 --> 00:40:23,540 - Sir, thank you. 953 00:40:23,540 --> 00:40:25,950 So when we talk about retention, 954 00:40:25,950 --> 00:40:27,760 why our civilian Airmen only offered 955 00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:31,960 75% of tuition assistance, while military provided 100%? 956 00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:34,690 Considering many civilians serve for over 30 years, 957 00:40:34,690 --> 00:40:37,693 isn't higher tuition assistance a retention incentive? 958 00:40:38,540 --> 00:40:40,900 - It can be, such a great question. 959 00:40:40,900 --> 00:40:45,900 So, what I would say is given that we have over 65,000, 960 00:40:46,240 --> 00:40:49,970 I think, civilian airmen within the command. 961 00:40:49,970 --> 00:40:51,610 There becomes a budgetary limit 962 00:40:51,610 --> 00:40:53,400 on how much we spend in these areas 963 00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:55,800 that we have to take account for. 964 00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:59,030 It's not perfect, but we have made some strides. 965 00:40:59,030 --> 00:41:02,330 We've opened it up now to go for associate's degrees. 966 00:41:02,330 --> 00:41:04,090 We've opened up the opportunity to take 967 00:41:04,090 --> 00:41:07,680 more than one class at a time with tuition assistance. 968 00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:11,230 We've tried to make the program more usable and better. 969 00:41:11,230 --> 00:41:13,760 Where we haven't been able to maybe get everything 970 00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:16,410 with tuition assistance, we've tried to use 971 00:41:16,410 --> 00:41:19,890 the Acquisition Workforce Development Funds, 972 00:41:19,890 --> 00:41:22,220 and that's another one that we'll have to go look at, 973 00:41:22,220 --> 00:41:24,220 and see what we can supplement training 974 00:41:24,220 --> 00:41:25,750 and everything else with. 975 00:41:25,750 --> 00:41:27,430 That one's a little more challenging now, 976 00:41:27,430 --> 00:41:29,170 because we're in a budget constraint environment 977 00:41:29,170 --> 00:41:31,900 in some cases, and we're trying to watch that. 978 00:41:31,900 --> 00:41:36,900 The other one I would encourage our airmen to utilize, 979 00:41:36,940 --> 00:41:39,670 the Civilian Developmental Education Program. 980 00:41:39,670 --> 00:41:42,493 That window to apply is open through March. 981 00:41:43,580 --> 00:41:45,320 We offer a lot opportunities to do things 982 00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:47,620 like Squadron Officer School. 983 00:41:47,620 --> 00:41:50,287 We do some fellowships, we do Air Command 984 00:41:50,287 --> 00:41:53,220 and Staff College, Air War College. 985 00:41:53,220 --> 00:41:55,740 I would encourage you to look for those opportunities 986 00:41:55,740 --> 00:41:59,230 to grow your knowledge base and increase your knowledge, 987 00:41:59,230 --> 00:42:01,410 and be able to move out on that. 988 00:42:01,410 --> 00:42:03,630 So, I can't give you a great answer that I'm gonna move it, 989 00:42:03,630 --> 00:42:06,110 or go try to get it to 100. 990 00:42:06,110 --> 00:42:09,980 I can say that it's a pretty good program to give you 75%, 991 00:42:09,980 --> 00:42:12,120 to try to get an Associate's, or a Bachelor's, 992 00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:16,340 or a Master's, or a Doctorate, and we will continue 993 00:42:16,340 --> 00:42:19,500 to look at ways to make it as user friendly as we can 994 00:42:19,500 --> 00:42:21,130 and open that aperture. 995 00:42:21,130 --> 00:42:23,520 - Thank you, so we've had several questions come in 996 00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:26,820 on the Fit 4 Life Fitness Program and Sustainment Center. 997 00:42:26,820 --> 00:42:28,490 Can you provide an update on that? 998 00:42:28,490 --> 00:42:32,210 - So right as we did our first virtual Town Hall, 999 00:42:32,210 --> 00:42:34,910 was when that kind of got released, 1000 00:42:34,910 --> 00:42:37,530 and at the time, it said it was suspended, 1001 00:42:37,530 --> 00:42:41,800 and it was in August, when it was done. 1002 00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:43,840 Right now, it's still suspended. 1003 00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:45,934 General Kirkland and his team will relook at it 1004 00:42:45,934 --> 00:42:48,210 in August of this year, 1005 00:42:48,210 --> 00:42:50,520 and then they will let me know what they've decided 1006 00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:52,110 based on the facts that they found, 1007 00:42:52,110 --> 00:42:54,680 and the data and how the productivity is going. 1008 00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:57,490 So it's still suspended for right now. 1009 00:42:57,490 --> 00:43:01,890 You can still utilize, if you're a government civilian, 1010 00:43:01,890 --> 00:43:05,580 you still utilize all the fitness facilities at no cost, 1011 00:43:05,580 --> 00:43:09,680 and we know that's something that's out there, 1012 00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:10,810 and we will look at it, 1013 00:43:10,810 --> 00:43:13,590 and we'll give you a better answer later on. 1014 00:43:13,590 --> 00:43:14,780 - Okay, thank you. 1015 00:43:14,780 --> 00:43:16,730 So it's another one that came in online is, 1016 00:43:16,730 --> 00:43:18,235 when can we expect to find out about 1017 00:43:18,235 --> 00:43:21,380 the Senior Leader Enlisted Commissioning Program results? 1018 00:43:21,380 --> 00:43:24,250 - Yeah, so that's a great question. 1019 00:43:24,250 --> 00:43:25,890 Let me talk to you a little bit about the process, 1020 00:43:25,890 --> 00:43:29,293 because that seems to confuse folks sometimes. 1021 00:43:30,629 --> 00:43:32,840 So, the way the process works is, 1022 00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:35,540 this is an opportunity for senior leaders 1023 00:43:35,540 --> 00:43:37,640 to look and select individuals 1024 00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:40,920 to go to commissioning sources, whether that's ROTC, 1025 00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:42,870 or whether that's some other 1026 00:43:42,870 --> 00:43:44,960 commissioning source around there. 1027 00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:48,490 Most of them are in the ROTC or OTS lanes there, 1028 00:43:48,490 --> 00:43:52,440 but the way that process works is senior leaders, 1029 00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:54,740 usually four star commanders, 1030 00:43:54,740 --> 00:43:56,830 some other HAF staff level, 1031 00:43:56,830 --> 00:43:58,000 some of our senior leaders out there, 1032 00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:01,373 they selected individuals as an opportunity to say, 1033 00:44:03,538 --> 00:44:05,810 and obviously the package goes up, 1034 00:44:05,810 --> 00:44:08,090 there's a board that's held, 1035 00:44:08,090 --> 00:44:09,600 and those individuals are selected, 1036 00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:13,870 but before the announcements are made, 1037 00:44:13,870 --> 00:44:16,160 we look across the whole spectrum, 1038 00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:18,340 just to make sure that we're not missing anything, 1039 00:44:18,340 --> 00:44:21,073 make sure that we've dotted all of our T's, 1040 00:44:22,335 --> 00:44:23,830 or dotted our Is, crossed our Ts, 1041 00:44:23,830 --> 00:44:26,460 and we've done all of our homework for that process. 1042 00:44:26,460 --> 00:44:28,501 So that's really kind of what's happening right now. 1043 00:44:28,501 --> 00:44:31,530 Bottom line is, once that we get the okay 1044 00:44:31,530 --> 00:44:33,650 from the HAF staff, that we can release those results, 1045 00:44:33,650 --> 00:44:35,110 we will absolutely do that. 1046 00:44:35,110 --> 00:44:36,240 It should be coming soon. 1047 00:44:36,240 --> 00:44:38,630 I think it's scheduled within the next two weeks, 1048 00:44:38,630 --> 00:44:40,810 but we'll get an answer on that for sure, 1049 00:44:40,810 --> 00:44:42,860 and get back, provide that for you, 1050 00:44:42,860 --> 00:44:44,330 the follow on piece here. 1051 00:44:44,330 --> 00:44:46,797 - Thank you, so Chief, while we're at you, 1052 00:44:46,797 --> 00:44:49,610 can you talk a little bit about why do we 1053 00:44:49,610 --> 00:44:52,080 still require official photos and fitness score sheets 1054 00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:53,317 for the Outstanding Airman of the Year, 1055 00:44:53,317 --> 00:44:56,270 and not for Senior NCO Enlisted Promotion Boards, 1056 00:44:56,270 --> 00:44:58,030 especially E8, and E9. 1057 00:44:58,030 --> 00:45:00,699 - Yeah, so this question comes up occasionally, 1058 00:45:00,699 --> 00:45:03,530 and it's a great question when you start looking at it. 1059 00:45:03,530 --> 00:45:05,023 It's like, why do we do this? 1060 00:45:06,556 --> 00:45:07,500 There seems to be a disconnect there, 1061 00:45:07,500 --> 00:45:09,590 but I tell you, I don't really think there is. 1062 00:45:09,590 --> 00:45:12,140 I see those as two separate processes. 1063 00:45:12,140 --> 00:45:14,440 When we start talking about promotion, 1064 00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:17,660 we don't currently provide photos 1065 00:45:17,660 --> 00:45:19,550 for promotion boards to consider, 1066 00:45:19,550 --> 00:45:22,550 and when we're really look at promotions we're looking at, 1067 00:45:22,550 --> 00:45:25,220 who do we think could perform at that next level? 1068 00:45:25,220 --> 00:45:29,803 Who's ready to perform at whatever that next rank level is? 1069 00:45:29,803 --> 00:45:32,040 And we kind of look at their background, their history, 1070 00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:33,700 and then we look at the potential to serve 1071 00:45:33,700 --> 00:45:35,170 in that next higher role, 1072 00:45:35,170 --> 00:45:38,540 but when we're looking at, for selecting someone for 1073 00:45:38,540 --> 00:45:40,330 12 outstanding every year, 1074 00:45:40,330 --> 00:45:44,650 this is one of our premier programs within our force, 1075 00:45:44,650 --> 00:45:47,900 so we're trying to recognize those experts in their field 1076 00:45:47,900 --> 00:45:49,520 who are doing outstanding things, 1077 00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:53,593 and really representing our force to the American public. 1078 00:45:54,795 --> 00:45:57,220 As part of that is there is a little bit of a looking at 1079 00:45:57,220 --> 00:45:59,870 making sure that they're meeting standards, 1080 00:45:59,870 --> 00:46:03,121 and there's nothing that would surprise us 1081 00:46:03,121 --> 00:46:05,000 from a photo, so it does it, 1082 00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:07,060 but the bigger picture piece I think is that 1083 00:46:07,060 --> 00:46:11,280 we're also using those photos, as ways 1084 00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:13,760 for those people selected to highlight them 1085 00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:15,990 around our force, whether they're gonna be 1086 00:46:15,990 --> 00:46:17,740 displayed in magazines. 1087 00:46:17,740 --> 00:46:21,140 If you go over here in Dayton, to the National Museum 1088 00:46:21,140 --> 00:46:22,940 of the Air Force one of the walls you see 1089 00:46:22,940 --> 00:46:24,490 is our 12 Outstanding Airmen of the Year. 1090 00:46:24,490 --> 00:46:26,950 Those photos are displayed up there. 1091 00:46:26,950 --> 00:46:29,190 They're also displayed at the Pentagon, 1092 00:46:29,190 --> 00:46:31,080 at the headquarters Air Force. 1093 00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:34,720 So I think there is value in having those photos 1094 00:46:34,720 --> 00:46:36,320 for the the 12 Outstanding Airmen of the Year, 1095 00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:39,100 but I don't think that that makes sense to do 'em 1096 00:46:39,100 --> 00:46:40,910 for our promotion boards. 1097 00:46:40,910 --> 00:46:42,413 I draw a difference in there. 1098 00:46:43,404 --> 00:46:46,270 - So, the topic that's been on everybody's mind 1099 00:46:46,270 --> 00:46:48,300 across the Air Force is the stand up 1100 00:46:48,300 --> 00:46:49,690 with the Space Force, of course. 1101 00:46:49,690 --> 00:46:52,050 So can you talk a little bit about how you anticipate 1102 00:46:52,050 --> 00:46:55,960 that will affect AFMC and what opportunities might there be 1103 00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:57,960 if somebody wants to transfer into Space Force 1104 00:46:57,960 --> 00:46:59,800 in the uniform side. 1105 00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:02,370 - That's a great question, and there is a lot going on, 1106 00:47:02,370 --> 00:47:04,440 and I would encourage you to read all the news, 1107 00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:08,270 and daily you're seeing a lot of articles, 1108 00:47:08,270 --> 00:47:09,700 there are a lot of moving pieces, 1109 00:47:09,700 --> 00:47:12,620 so I'll give you where I think we are today, 1110 00:47:12,620 --> 00:47:14,460 and I'm sure some of this will change, 1111 00:47:14,460 --> 00:47:16,690 but I'll tell you where we're at right now. 1112 00:47:16,690 --> 00:47:20,020 For Air Force Materiel Command and the airmen 1113 00:47:20,020 --> 00:47:23,160 that work within Air Force Materiel Command, 1114 00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:26,350 I don't see a ton of change immediately 1115 00:47:26,350 --> 00:47:29,020 with what we're doing on a day to day basis. 1116 00:47:29,020 --> 00:47:31,778 We are still gonna provide the installation 1117 00:47:31,778 --> 00:47:34,470 mission support for everybody. 1118 00:47:34,470 --> 00:47:36,020 That's not gonna change. 1119 00:47:36,020 --> 00:47:38,260 We will continue to do that. 1120 00:47:38,260 --> 00:47:43,260 We will continue to do research in science and technology 1121 00:47:43,410 --> 00:47:45,693 to support the Space Force. 1122 00:47:46,750 --> 00:47:51,750 We may make a change to where some of those individuals 1123 00:47:52,450 --> 00:47:54,370 are part of the Space Force, 1124 00:47:54,370 --> 00:47:57,743 but they work in the Air Force Research Laboratory. 1125 00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:02,550 But that may not be limited to one particular directorate, 1126 00:48:02,550 --> 00:48:04,150 because the way that I look at it, 1127 00:48:04,150 --> 00:48:07,210 technology doesn't really know its applicability 1128 00:48:07,210 --> 00:48:08,610 until you tell it. 1129 00:48:08,610 --> 00:48:13,450 So last year, the team that won the Outstanding Team Award, 1130 00:48:13,450 --> 00:48:17,110 and a certain criteria that dealt with space, 1131 00:48:17,110 --> 00:48:20,820 was a space situational awareness, 1132 00:48:20,820 --> 00:48:24,800 and it was out of Rome, New York, not Kirtland, 1133 00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:26,960 where the Space Vehicles Directorate is, 1134 00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:29,640 and so we will create an environment 1135 00:48:29,640 --> 00:48:32,960 so that the science and technology we're doing in sensors, 1136 00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:37,960 or in info, or materials, or human performance, 1137 00:48:38,690 --> 00:48:42,270 all of those, and the Space Vehicles Directorate 1138 00:48:42,270 --> 00:48:45,020 can all feed back in to where we need to go 1139 00:48:45,020 --> 00:48:47,920 for the Space Force to develop that technology, 1140 00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:51,630 and to keep that capability as a war fighting domain 1141 00:48:51,630 --> 00:48:53,390 to make us dominate in space, 1142 00:48:53,390 --> 00:48:56,213 which is what we're supposed to do, and we need to do. 1143 00:48:57,290 --> 00:48:59,460 The other piece that we're talking about 1144 00:48:59,460 --> 00:49:02,530 and we want to make sure that we look at very much 1145 00:49:02,530 --> 00:49:06,680 as we go forward, we don't want to create a situation 1146 00:49:06,680 --> 00:49:11,680 where we become so insular with our force 1147 00:49:11,790 --> 00:49:15,550 that people can't go to the Space Force and back 1148 00:49:15,550 --> 00:49:18,420 in an acquisition type an environment. 1149 00:49:18,420 --> 00:49:20,970 If it's communications, well communications could apply 1150 00:49:20,970 --> 00:49:23,410 to how we're gonna do, communicate to space, 1151 00:49:23,410 --> 00:49:26,500 communicate to the Navy, communicate to anyone, 1152 00:49:26,500 --> 00:49:28,840 we need to create enough permeability 1153 00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:31,270 so that we can move people back and forth 1154 00:49:31,270 --> 00:49:35,230 and develop the right leaders to be better prepared 1155 00:49:35,230 --> 00:49:39,470 so that we can seamlessly apply Air and Space power 1156 00:49:39,470 --> 00:49:41,470 to get the nation's missions done. 1157 00:49:41,470 --> 00:49:44,320 So I really don't believe it's gonna change dramatically 1158 00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:46,720 for us, at least not right now. 1159 00:49:46,720 --> 00:49:50,340 We may have some individuals that become 1160 00:49:50,340 --> 00:49:51,690 part of the Space Force. 1161 00:49:51,690 --> 00:49:53,490 All those things are being worked. 1162 00:49:53,490 --> 00:49:55,403 There's nothing finalized right now, 1163 00:49:57,670 --> 00:49:59,380 but we want to be able to allow people 1164 00:49:59,380 --> 00:50:02,880 to move back and forth, and what my message 1165 00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:05,640 to AFMC is, we need to make 1166 00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:10,600 General Chief of Space Ops Raymond successful. 1167 00:50:10,600 --> 00:50:12,210 We need to make it successful, 1168 00:50:12,210 --> 00:50:14,360 because space is a war fighting domain, 1169 00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:16,860 and the work we do for them each and every day 1170 00:50:16,860 --> 00:50:19,370 is our wartime mission, and we gotta make sure 1171 00:50:19,370 --> 00:50:22,040 we do it so that we remain dominant in that environment 1172 00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:24,090 that we count on so heavily. 1173 00:50:24,090 --> 00:50:25,340 - Thanks, so we're down to just 1174 00:50:25,340 --> 00:50:26,580 our last couple questions here, 1175 00:50:26,580 --> 00:50:29,670 but I would be remiss if we did not ask about the S&T 2030 1176 00:50:29,670 --> 00:50:31,650 and where we are with that strategy. 1177 00:50:31,650 --> 00:50:33,620 - So, great question. 1178 00:50:33,620 --> 00:50:36,610 The Science and Technology 2030 strategy 1179 00:50:36,610 --> 00:50:38,573 was signed out by Secretary Wilson. 1180 00:50:39,610 --> 00:50:41,140 When we first got here, 1181 00:50:41,140 --> 00:50:44,040 when I first arrived I asked the team 1182 00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:46,560 to build an implementation plan, 1183 00:50:46,560 --> 00:50:48,650 and they have built that implementation plan, 1184 00:50:48,650 --> 00:50:51,543 and we're already off executing that implementation plan. 1185 00:50:52,580 --> 00:50:54,740 Couple things that are big focus areas 1186 00:50:54,740 --> 00:50:57,240 of the whole S&T 2030. 1187 00:50:57,240 --> 00:51:00,150 Competition, we are in a competition. 1188 00:51:00,150 --> 00:51:02,520 We need ideas to compete, to get funding, 1189 00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:05,500 and to move forward, and if they're not making the progress 1190 00:51:05,500 --> 00:51:08,680 that we need them to make, then we're gonna off ramble. 1191 00:51:08,680 --> 00:51:11,820 We need to make sure that we open up an environment 1192 00:51:11,820 --> 00:51:15,020 where we can take ideas from academia, industry, 1193 00:51:15,020 --> 00:51:19,040 others, as well as internal to the research laboratory, 1194 00:51:19,040 --> 00:51:21,470 and be able to take those and do the right research 1195 00:51:21,470 --> 00:51:22,860 and move that forward. 1196 00:51:22,860 --> 00:51:24,750 So that's a big focus area. 1197 00:51:24,750 --> 00:51:28,760 We have realigned the way we look 1198 00:51:28,760 --> 00:51:30,740 at some of our bigger programs. 1199 00:51:30,740 --> 00:51:34,870 We've established a process to develop ideas 1200 00:51:34,870 --> 00:51:37,570 and select vanguard programs. 1201 00:51:37,570 --> 00:51:41,600 Vanguard programs, which we have three of those right now. 1202 00:51:41,600 --> 00:51:43,740 One for space, one for weapons, 1203 00:51:43,740 --> 00:51:46,740 and one for low cost attributable systems, 1204 00:51:46,740 --> 00:51:50,650 and those programs are we believe game changers 1205 00:51:50,650 --> 00:51:52,830 in the way that we can employ airpower. 1206 00:51:52,830 --> 00:51:55,020 We're managing those programs differently 1207 00:51:55,020 --> 00:51:58,860 than we have in the past, and this is a big topic 1208 00:51:58,860 --> 00:52:01,820 that we had just last week with Air Combat Command, 1209 00:52:01,820 --> 00:52:05,100 with General Holmes, and Dr. Roper, and with the AFMC 1210 00:52:05,100 --> 00:52:06,970 as to how we move forward on those. 1211 00:52:06,970 --> 00:52:09,230 So that one's another big effort. 1212 00:52:09,230 --> 00:52:12,680 So we really have put a lot of emphasis in it. 1213 00:52:12,680 --> 00:52:14,310 We gotta get the right people. 1214 00:52:14,310 --> 00:52:15,510 That's another big emphasis area. 1215 00:52:15,510 --> 00:52:17,918 How do you get the right people in? 1216 00:52:17,918 --> 00:52:20,030 We built an implementation plan. 1217 00:52:20,030 --> 00:52:22,040 We're probably not moving as quickly 1218 00:52:22,040 --> 00:52:25,080 as some people want us to, but we're off and running, 1219 00:52:25,080 --> 00:52:26,010 we're on a plan. 1220 00:52:26,010 --> 00:52:28,530 I'm getting regular updates and I'm very happy 1221 00:52:28,530 --> 00:52:30,660 with how the team's moving forward. 1222 00:52:30,660 --> 00:52:32,520 - Thanks sir, so for both of you, you know, 1223 00:52:32,520 --> 00:52:34,790 as we we kind of wrap things up here, 1224 00:52:34,790 --> 00:52:37,170 talk about how you find balance in your life, 1225 00:52:37,170 --> 00:52:38,163 just real briefly. 1226 00:52:39,530 --> 00:52:40,523 - I'll start sir. 1227 00:52:42,640 --> 00:52:46,560 So, I will tell you, when I think of balance, 1228 00:52:46,560 --> 00:52:49,090 with work-life balance, 1229 00:52:49,090 --> 00:52:50,800 I don't usually use the word balance, 1230 00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:53,410 I kind of use the word rhythm, because I think 1231 00:52:53,410 --> 00:52:55,270 that it's more like a sine wave, 1232 00:52:55,270 --> 00:53:00,270 and it's sometimes I do better at home, sometimes I don't, 1233 00:53:00,810 --> 00:53:03,680 and usually the first vector I get from that 1234 00:53:03,680 --> 00:53:04,950 is usually my spouse. 1235 00:53:04,950 --> 00:53:08,070 Rhonda will tell me when I don't got it right, 1236 00:53:08,070 --> 00:53:12,460 so, bottom line, I strive to kind of work 1237 00:53:12,460 --> 00:53:16,600 to get a balance in there, or a sine wave in there, 1238 00:53:16,600 --> 00:53:19,530 however you look at that, but the reality is, 1239 00:53:19,530 --> 00:53:21,981 is I'm probably not the best at, 1240 00:53:21,981 --> 00:53:22,960 I'm probably not the best example, 1241 00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:25,380 but I do strive to make those times. 1242 00:53:25,380 --> 00:53:28,530 I think that family's important, right. 1243 00:53:28,530 --> 00:53:29,780 It's extremely important. 1244 00:53:31,430 --> 00:53:36,163 So, our families, they give so much for this, 1245 00:53:37,127 --> 00:53:38,270 to allow us to serve. 1246 00:53:38,270 --> 00:53:40,210 So we owe them to make sure that we are 1247 00:53:40,210 --> 00:53:42,000 spending valuable time with them, 1248 00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:45,280 and my spouse is very good about that. 1249 00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:47,460 Rhonda, she'll let me know if we don't get it right, 1250 00:53:47,460 --> 00:53:49,230 and we'll work on that. 1251 00:53:49,230 --> 00:53:50,670 We'll spend some time doing other things, 1252 00:53:50,670 --> 00:53:52,890 but I guess what I'm saying is 1253 00:53:52,890 --> 00:53:54,960 it's something that we're constantly working on, 1254 00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:58,380 constantly looking at, and kind of evaluating 1255 00:53:58,380 --> 00:54:01,970 each and every day, to kind of take a look at where am I at? 1256 00:54:01,970 --> 00:54:03,650 Do I need to spend more time at work, 1257 00:54:03,650 --> 00:54:05,420 because there's a project going on, 1258 00:54:05,420 --> 00:54:06,870 there's something going on. 1259 00:54:06,870 --> 00:54:07,840 We got to take care of this, 1260 00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:09,860 or is there some times where I can say okay, yeah, 1261 00:54:09,860 --> 00:54:11,370 I need to take a little bit of a knee, 1262 00:54:11,370 --> 00:54:14,200 and I gotta focus on things at home a little bit too. 1263 00:54:14,200 --> 00:54:17,050 So, it's something that we've constantly got to be after. 1264 00:54:17,989 --> 00:54:22,730 - So, balance, it's always an interesting dialogue. 1265 00:54:22,730 --> 00:54:26,270 When I went to a group commanders course, 1266 00:54:26,270 --> 00:54:29,510 I had an individual explain to me, who was our mentor, 1267 00:54:29,510 --> 00:54:31,010 he was a Lieutenant General, 1268 00:54:31,010 --> 00:54:33,550 and I've used his quote ever since then. 1269 00:54:33,550 --> 00:54:36,570 He said anybody that tells you that they've got work, 1270 00:54:36,570 --> 00:54:39,780 family, spiritual, and fitness, and health 1271 00:54:39,780 --> 00:54:43,813 all perfectly balanced, those people are liars. 1272 00:54:44,750 --> 00:54:48,530 The reality of it is, it's never all perfectly balanced, 1273 00:54:48,530 --> 00:54:51,110 and you constantly have to make decisions 1274 00:54:51,110 --> 00:54:53,800 on where you're gonna put your emphasis and what you need. 1275 00:54:53,800 --> 00:54:57,130 I, much like the Chief, I spend a great deal of time 1276 00:54:57,130 --> 00:55:01,753 on what I refer to as the WAP, the Wife Appeasement Plan, 1277 00:55:02,610 --> 00:55:05,090 because I often do get this out of balance 1278 00:55:05,090 --> 00:55:07,240 with the amount of focus that I put at work, 1279 00:55:07,240 --> 00:55:09,230 and what I'm doing for the mission, 1280 00:55:09,230 --> 00:55:12,223 and there are times that you have to step away from that. 1281 00:55:13,573 --> 00:55:16,030 I do not want you to run out of family 1282 00:55:16,030 --> 00:55:18,490 before you run out of Air Force. 1283 00:55:18,490 --> 00:55:20,293 Families are critical. 1284 00:55:21,620 --> 00:55:23,550 If you're a military member out there, 1285 00:55:23,550 --> 00:55:25,300 and you've done a bunch of PCSs, 1286 00:55:25,300 --> 00:55:27,653 go home and tell your spouse thank you. 1287 00:55:28,590 --> 00:55:31,500 They are the best value the American taxpayer gets. 1288 00:55:31,500 --> 00:55:32,853 We don't give 'em a penny, 1289 00:55:34,040 --> 00:55:36,590 And we go do cool jobs in the uniform, 1290 00:55:36,590 --> 00:55:39,750 and they try to find schools, doctors, 1291 00:55:39,750 --> 00:55:43,540 places to worship, sports teams, all those things. 1292 00:55:43,540 --> 00:55:45,897 So, if you haven't gone home and said thank you, 1293 00:55:45,897 --> 00:55:47,410 You may be a little out of balance, 1294 00:55:47,410 --> 00:55:49,610 you might need to go home and say thank you. 1295 00:55:49,610 --> 00:55:52,010 But the reality of it is, there are times 1296 00:55:52,010 --> 00:55:53,960 that the mission's just gotta come first, 1297 00:55:53,960 --> 00:55:56,633 and that's where I will personally go home and say, 1298 00:55:57,570 --> 00:56:00,693 Caroline, I gotta do this, here we go. 1299 00:56:01,960 --> 00:56:06,780 And there are other times that I will come here and say, 1300 00:56:06,780 --> 00:56:07,730 you guys got this. 1301 00:56:07,730 --> 00:56:09,140 I gotta to get away for the weekend, 1302 00:56:09,140 --> 00:56:11,110 so that I get back with the family, 1303 00:56:11,110 --> 00:56:13,310 or you need to get that quiet time 1304 00:56:13,310 --> 00:56:15,010 to get your spirituality right, 1305 00:56:15,010 --> 00:56:17,030 and get yourself more comfortable, 1306 00:56:17,030 --> 00:56:19,110 or you've not been working out. 1307 00:56:19,110 --> 00:56:22,930 You gotta get after it, so it's a constant give and take, 1308 00:56:22,930 --> 00:56:26,780 that I don't believe we ever get perfect, 1309 00:56:26,780 --> 00:56:29,070 but it is one that we do need to think about, 1310 00:56:29,070 --> 00:56:30,810 and we need to listen to those around us. 1311 00:56:30,810 --> 00:56:34,350 There are times that we will not understand 1312 00:56:34,350 --> 00:56:35,670 the amount of stress we're under, 1313 00:56:35,670 --> 00:56:38,284 until someone comes to you and says, 1314 00:56:38,284 --> 00:56:42,290 boss, you need a week off for everybody's sake. 1315 00:56:42,290 --> 00:56:44,460 So we just need to be willing to listen, 1316 00:56:44,460 --> 00:56:46,920 and that's part of that, knowing each other 1317 00:56:46,920 --> 00:56:50,040 and having that constant communication, 1318 00:56:50,040 --> 00:56:51,760 and being willing to ask that tough question 1319 00:56:51,760 --> 00:56:53,460 every now and then along the way. 1320 00:56:53,460 --> 00:56:54,480 - Okay, thank you. 1321 00:56:54,480 --> 00:56:56,040 Well this has been a fast hour. 1322 00:56:56,040 --> 00:56:57,710 We're actually almost at the end of the hour here, 1323 00:56:57,710 --> 00:56:59,060 so I just want to offer you 1324 00:56:59,060 --> 00:57:01,830 some brief parting shots before we go. 1325 00:57:01,830 --> 00:57:05,520 - So thank you, I just want to say this is the first time 1326 00:57:05,520 --> 00:57:08,070 we've done this in this format with both of us together, 1327 00:57:08,070 --> 00:57:10,980 really, really, hopefully get some good feedback 1328 00:57:10,980 --> 00:57:14,090 from you all on what we can do to improve, 1329 00:57:14,090 --> 00:57:17,190 but the reality is, is this is an opportunity 1330 00:57:17,190 --> 00:57:19,230 for us to kind of share with you what's going on 1331 00:57:19,230 --> 00:57:21,630 in the command and what's going on around our Air Force, 1332 00:57:21,630 --> 00:57:22,790 and to hear from you. 1333 00:57:22,790 --> 00:57:26,343 We thank you for spending some time to that, to hear that. 1334 00:57:27,180 --> 00:57:29,390 If you hear nothing else from anything I said, 1335 00:57:29,390 --> 00:57:32,600 I just wanted you to hear this, and that is, thank you. 1336 00:57:32,600 --> 00:57:34,790 Thank you for what you do for our mission. 1337 00:57:34,790 --> 00:57:36,900 Thank you for what you do for our country. 1338 00:57:36,900 --> 00:57:39,810 Thank you for what you do for AFMC. 1339 00:57:39,810 --> 00:57:41,930 As you heard, I truly believe 1340 00:57:41,930 --> 00:57:43,710 this is the most important MAJCOM, 1341 00:57:43,710 --> 00:57:45,380 for all the reasons that you heard, 1342 00:57:45,380 --> 00:57:48,060 and because of that, it's only that way 1343 00:57:48,060 --> 00:57:52,600 because of you and for what you do for the AFMC family. 1344 00:57:52,600 --> 00:57:54,690 I asked you to think about some of the things 1345 00:57:54,690 --> 00:57:57,205 we talked about, specifically about taking care of yourself, 1346 00:57:57,205 --> 00:57:59,810 taking care of those folks that are standing around you, 1347 00:57:59,810 --> 00:58:03,370 that sit next to you, that work around you. 1348 00:58:03,370 --> 00:58:04,780 Look out for them. 1349 00:58:04,780 --> 00:58:05,880 Please take care of that. 1350 00:58:05,880 --> 00:58:07,810 We look forward to seeing you as we come out there 1351 00:58:07,810 --> 00:58:10,880 and visit the installations around the AFMC. 1352 00:58:10,880 --> 00:58:12,950 Thank you very much, and look forward 1353 00:58:12,950 --> 00:58:14,100 to talking to you soon. 1354 00:58:15,010 --> 00:58:19,810 - So for me, thank you for taking the time to dial in, 1355 00:58:19,810 --> 00:58:22,043 and watch, and see it all. 1356 00:58:23,970 --> 00:58:25,173 I really appreciate it. 1357 00:58:26,370 --> 00:58:27,830 We do want your feedback. 1358 00:58:27,830 --> 00:58:29,670 If this doesn't work, let us know. 1359 00:58:29,670 --> 00:58:31,970 We'll try to do something else, 1360 00:58:31,970 --> 00:58:33,790 but it's an opportunity for you to get us 1361 00:58:33,790 --> 00:58:37,403 kind of candidly giving you where we're at. 1362 00:58:39,160 --> 00:58:41,123 Thank you for what you do. 1363 00:58:42,310 --> 00:58:44,913 It is an honor and a privilege to work for you. 1364 00:58:45,760 --> 00:58:49,970 You are unbelievable, and you all inspire me every day 1365 00:58:49,970 --> 00:58:54,410 to come to work, and you make it a joy to come in and enjoy. 1366 00:58:54,410 --> 00:58:59,210 When I come out and see you, you inspire me 1367 00:58:59,210 --> 00:59:01,050 to go fight another budget battle. 1368 00:59:01,050 --> 00:59:03,710 You inspire me to go to another meeting. 1369 00:59:03,710 --> 00:59:06,490 You inspire me to go try to remove roadblocks 1370 00:59:06,490 --> 00:59:09,850 and get you the resources you need to get your mission done, 1371 00:59:09,850 --> 00:59:13,130 because you're the ones that are doing the tough mission. 1372 00:59:13,130 --> 00:59:15,950 Keep doing your wartime mission each and every day. 1373 00:59:15,950 --> 00:59:18,760 Lean into with the right sense of urgency. 1374 00:59:18,760 --> 00:59:21,280 We'll get you answers to all the other questions, 1375 00:59:21,280 --> 00:59:23,990 and if you had some you didn't want to ask, 1376 00:59:23,990 --> 00:59:26,033 I'm in the Global, okay. 1377 00:59:27,700 --> 00:59:30,340 Open shots fire away, okay. 1378 00:59:30,340 --> 00:59:31,510 Thank you very much. 1379 00:59:31,510 --> 00:59:32,553 - Sir, thank you. 1380 00:59:32,553 --> 00:59:34,580 I appreciate your time today for both of you. 1381 00:59:34,580 --> 00:59:37,240 I think this was valuable session for all. 1382 00:59:37,240 --> 00:59:39,330 And out there, thank you too for joining us. 1383 00:59:39,330 --> 00:59:41,670 I'll echo those thoughts, and just as a reminder 1384 00:59:41,670 --> 00:59:44,530 this whole session will be on its entirety in Facebook 1385 00:59:44,530 --> 00:59:48,550 as well as the AFMC DVID's page with the full transcript 1386 00:59:48,550 --> 00:59:50,450 in the coming days here, so thank you.